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Huge Rise In Number Of Albanians Crossing From France
//The number of Albanian migrants crossing the Channel has seen an "exponential rise" over the last year, MPs have heard.
The Home Affairs Committee was told that "one to two percent" of the entire male population of Albania - around 10,000 men - arrived on small boats this year alone.//
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BBC television news last night reported the number as 12,000 but I can find nothing about it on their website today.
We talked here earlier in the year about the rise in the number of Albanians coming to the UK illegally - but that met with some degree of denial. Now there's no doubt. These people can in no way be considered asylum seekers. Leave Suella to do her job!
The Home Affairs Committee was told that "one to two percent" of the entire male population of Albania - around 10,000 men - arrived on small boats this year alone.//
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BBC television news last night reported the number as 12,000 but I can find nothing about it on their website today.
We talked here earlier in the year about the rise in the number of Albanians coming to the UK illegally - but that met with some degree of denial. Now there's no doubt. These people can in no way be considered asylum seekers. Leave Suella to do her job!
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Can you blame them...Albania looks savage!
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Back to the thread, I hope. I've suggested before that something like the 'Green Card' system used by France would be a help - and less emotive than full identity cards. You need a Green Card to access health care and other social benefits - or else you have to pay for it; by insurance or your own funds, it's up to you. It is, effectively a form of I.D. card. The other safeguard is the Carte de Sejour, which was reintroduced after a few years cancellation of it resulted in people living anywhere without the govt. knowing exactly where. I don't think that has a chance over here - but a card to prove you have an NI number and various entitlements might have.
//You need a Green Card to access health care and other social benefits//
Would never work, jourdain. Picture this: a "rubber boat" migrant doesn't fancy formalising his position here (as many of them don't) but falls ill. Not life threatening, but in a fair amount of pain and discomfort. He decides he must seek medical help, despite his worries about being "under the radar". So he pitches up at his local A&E. It should go like this:
Receptionist: "Where's your green card?"
Rubber Boat Man: "Haven't got one."
Receptionist: "Sorry, off you go."
There is no way on Earth that will happen. There isn't the political will for it and the handwringers won't hear of it. Far better to change the name of the NHS to the INS (the International Health Service) and allow its already p-poor services to degenerate even further as it is forced to treat all and sundry. Never mind that the people paying for it often cannot get timely service - they're only the mugs shelling out their hard earned after all.
Would never work, jourdain. Picture this: a "rubber boat" migrant doesn't fancy formalising his position here (as many of them don't) but falls ill. Not life threatening, but in a fair amount of pain and discomfort. He decides he must seek medical help, despite his worries about being "under the radar". So he pitches up at his local A&E. It should go like this:
Receptionist: "Where's your green card?"
Rubber Boat Man: "Haven't got one."
Receptionist: "Sorry, off you go."
There is no way on Earth that will happen. There isn't the political will for it and the handwringers won't hear of it. Far better to change the name of the NHS to the INS (the International Health Service) and allow its already p-poor services to degenerate even further as it is forced to treat all and sundry. Never mind that the people paying for it often cannot get timely service - they're only the mugs shelling out their hard earned after all.
naomi; //Our first priority must be to distance ourselves from the ECHR because whilst that bunch of unelected, unknown, adjudicators (see how polite I was there?) holds such enormous influence over decisions made by the government of this country - and is actually capable of reversing them -//
I commend you for using the term 'adjudicators' for those presiding over important decisions at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, these people are only judges in the sense that they make judgements, they are not necessarily 'real' judges, -though some are- they comprise of an anonymous assortment of academics, lawyers, politicians & God knows what else. The institution is well past its sell by date vis a vis the UK, & the fact that it can, despite Brexit, still override UK Government decisions, such as the flight to Rwanda, is quite outrageous.
I commend you for using the term 'adjudicators' for those presiding over important decisions at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, these people are only judges in the sense that they make judgements, they are not necessarily 'real' judges, -though some are- they comprise of an anonymous assortment of academics, lawyers, politicians & God knows what else. The institution is well past its sell by date vis a vis the UK, & the fact that it can, despite Brexit, still override UK Government decisions, such as the flight to Rwanda, is quite outrageous.
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