What Could Possibly Be The Benefit Of Dissolving The British Royal Family?

[johnny.5]

why is there so much anti-royal family stories or negative press in the media at the moment ?
Is it the fourth estate trying to take residence in the royal estates ?

[youngmafbog]

Just out of interest how do you know TTT isnt Japanese?

Probably not but who knows.

[Untitled]

senior royals are at present protected by “the firm” so long as they conform to its requirements… they are in practise above the law and that is wrong. doing away with the royal family would get rid of that.

i also think that the royal family themselves are a seriously dysfunctional unbalanced and frankly unhappy group of people who are that way because they are indoctrinated from a young age into complying with the inhuman requirements of royalty… it bestows privilege that is unearned and easily abused and at the same time it makes the people involved with it miserable and mentally ill.

monarchy seems to be there to please tourists and to make monarchists happy and so that the rest of the world gets a nice bit of pomp and spectacle every now and then… these things are very nice and i would miss them if they were gone but they aren’t worth it.

[youngmafbog]

Gawd, where is J Edgar when you need him?

[New Judge]

//...but they aren’t worth it.//

Not worth what?

[Untitled]

worth keeping the monarchy

[bhg481]

From memory the royal family only costs about £1 per annum for each British person. I remember the Nationwide Building Society saying their sponsorship of the Premier League costs each of their savers approx £1 per annum. I know where I prefer my money to go and it's not to football.

[sandyRoe]

We ask too much of them. Living your life in a goldfish bowl is too cruel.
Abolish the monarchy and find an old politician as president.
Tony Blair would fit the bill.

[New Judge]

//worth keeping the monarchy//

I'll try again. You said they are "not worth it". What is the "it" that they are not worth? What are they not worth? The money? The time? The aggravation? I appreciate you believe they are not worth keeping. But why do you say that?

[New Judge]

//Abolish the monarchy and find an old politician as president.
Tony Blair would fit the bill.//

And do you wonder why many people want to retain the Monarchy, Sandy? I'd say the same if you suggested John Major, David Cameron or even Margaret Thatcher (if she was still alive).

[ZebuSanctuary]

// but they aren’t worth it. //

Last year the Sovereign Grant cost UK taxpayers £102m.

Michelle Mone (£29m) and PPE firm Medpro (contracts worth £100m plus for substandard PPE) to which she was linked.

Given the comparison above, can you be sure they are not worth it?

[Untitled]

they are not worth the harm caused by keeping one highly dysfunctional and miserable family above the law and in the public spotlight at all times

[New Judge]

What harm is it causing?

[ichkeria]

If we had a President it would be someone the country might rally round - rather like Michael D Higgins in Ireland.

Clare Balding peut-être .

Who knows

[mushroom25]

// If we had a President it would be someone the country might rally round //

yeh but what form would that president take? would they be a proper executive with real political power, or little more than a figurehead with no power at all? and who would get to decide?

[ichkeria]

No a figurehead

The UK has a parliamentary system nit a presidential one
I’m fine with having a monarch btw
All this will blow over

[Untitled]

the institution of the monarchy is harmful to those that are in it. it is no coincidence that many of them turn out to be dysfunctional and mentally ill even despite one of the longest-running PR operations in the world…

second, if we imagine a situation where a senior royal commits a serious crime (e.g. rape) do we really honestly believe that they are likely to be prosecuted for it even if they are guilty? Realistically it would simply not be allowed to happen… being above the law goes with the territory of being royal and that is a recipe for harm

[jno]

the head of state is a figurehead, and would presumably remain so. I'd prefer elections to the post not to coincide with parliamentary elections.

[New Judge]

//.. it is no coincidence that many of them turn out to be dysfunctional and mentally ill//

Which of the current batch do you consider to be mentally ill? I would possibly put Harry on that list, but he would be like he is whatever family he was part of. He lost his mother at a young age and doesn't seem able to get over it. It happens to lots of children. His marriage has not helped him one bit but what what would help him - to slink into obscurity to enjoy the privacy he apparently craves, seems beyond him. But the rest? They may be different to many folk (which may make them appear "dysfunctional" to others) but I don't think I'd label them mentally ill.

[johnny.5]

the point I am trying to highlight is that
The news media seem to delight in only focusing on the negatives except when it suits them and they all want a piece of the gravy train that is the pomp and circumstance of the pageantry

[jno]

editors like being knighted, johnny. You don't get that if you've supported republicanism or anyone saying bad things about the king and heir.You get it by naming railways and ships after the king.