Church Of England Bishops Refuse To Back Gay Marriage

[naomi24]

This would apply equally in the other Abrahamic religions too - Judaism and Islam - but is it right or wrong?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64313367

[Peter Pedant]

is it right or wrong?

nothing to do with right or wrong - it is the law of England - and the Bishops "dice non!"
Anglican Bishops that is, but the Roman Bishops ( sozza " those pretend prelates who adhere to the Church and Bishop of Rome"), ( " who seditiously and treaonably adhere....) don't seem to be that keen

Genesis has the story of Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve as a pentecostalist once said

[Canary42]

If Adam and Eve are such shining examples why did God kick them out of the garden ?

[Peter Pedant]

oh, that is Chap 2 of Genesis
God tole them not to eat of the er forbidden tree, and they did.

yeah their lawyer - (the oldest profession isnt prostitution it is OK yeah prostitution, but they are called lawyers - ter daah) pleaded they misheard and needed a clarification
as they thought it was the "for-bitten tree" - as the fruit was - "for biting"

yeah or something

[Khandro]

//If Adam and Eve are such shining examples why did God kick them out of the garden ?//

The mind boggles !

[Mozz71]

The CoE have gay priests don't they? Bit of a dick move for them to deny them marriage then.

[bednobs]

in all honesty mozz, i have never read the bible, but god himself seems like a bit of a dick to me. "is love important?" "yes, but only if you do it in my prescribed way"

[Mozz71]

Couldn't agree more Bednobs.

[Untitled]

"My problem with this is that it is no longer possible to disagree with gay marriage / adoption etc. without being labelled as homophobic. One view of that is that a noisy minority group have deprived me of my right to express an opinion. As I said it’s my problem, if you think this is all OK then fine, but I don’t but I can no longer say so, publicly at least. "

my goodness what a cry-baby .

it is not surprising but disappointing for gay people and those who care about them... there are christian churches that are willing to marry same-sex couples and some anglican priests who disagree with this decision so there's obviously some way to theologize your way into allowing it... the church has put its books before actually doing good for real-life actually-existing people.

nobody below the age of 50 is likely to be very impressed so they can look forward to being more and more irrelevant and possibly disestablished in future

[Khandro]

bednobs; Be grateful you live in such a liberal environment.

For your post at 16:47 Wed. in some countries you would receive a minimum of 30 lashes & in others a possible beheading.

And for his endorsement, likewise the poster beneath.

[naomi24]

That's not a good thing though is it, Khandro?

[douglas9401]

Aye Khandro, but we don't live in 'some countries', stoneage or otherwise.

[Khandro]

Indeed !

[naomi24]

^What does that mean?

[andy-hughes]

All religions pick the bits of their tome of choice, and use them to back up their individual points of view.

That covers everything from not approving whistling on Sunday, to murdering large numbers of innocent strangers.

Take your tome, pick a bit you like, go with what you believe it says.

[Peter Pedant]

yes OK Naomi quoting the Bible is.... remarkable.

The problem is that the Bible is written in foreign. yes well spotted. Aramaic, and the bit that concerns us
is clear about Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve

[naomi24]

PP, //yes OK Naomi quoting the Bible is.... remarkable.//

Not remarkable at all.

[Peter Pedant]

"is love important?" "yes, but only if you do it in my prescribed way"

I think you need to read it a bit more lovey

we are talking about marriage and a ceremony
I love my darg, my beeches trees. No one suggests I marry them ( see Golden Bough, v technical) - I love the wind as it blows down the beach, the sun as it shines
marriage ? nope

[Peter Pedant]

yes remarkable - subjective

normal day on AB I see

[Peter Pedant]

it is also remarkable that you read my comment and understood it

[naomi24]

^That indeed is remarkable. Talented even.