'Woman' Rapes Two Women Using 'Her' Penis And Is Sent To A Woman's Jail.

[Deskdiary]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

Jesus wept - who agrees this is absurd?

And why the hell is the Mail referring to somebody with a penis who rapes women as 'her'?

In his most recent Netflix special, Ricky Gervais had a routine about this very scenario, which was hilarious because it was so absurd. Paraphrasing "He raped me", "you mean she raped you", "but he had a penis", "she had a penis you effing bigot". But clearly it wasn't that absurd after all!

[bobbinwales]

'Spot on, untitled
Not really...some of it was tripe as noami said.

[ZebuSanctuary]

new judge-mental // It was an off the cuff response to a question on numeracy //

A response so wildly inaccurate, and now, you're even confusing numeracy with physics. Tut, tut.


// No mention of my standing on top of the sun //

Had you managed to reconcile this, albeit a tiny step, at least you would have been moving in the right direction i.e., the truth that lies behind the problem.

Unfortunately your over inflated ego trumps your ability to recognise your own mistakes. As a consequence there is no room for improvement.

In fact, the persecution of minority groups is what defines you.

new judge-mental //Your optimism is unfounded. You will find that as the those on the final leg of their journeys shuffle off this mortal coil, they will be replaced by another lot of fathers and mothers who want safe spaces for their daughters and husbands who want the same for their wives retained, free from biological men //

Hahahaha... You'll not be around to know this.

Pigheaded optimism on your part.

So overflowing is your self righteousness you're now stood in your own slop.

[naomi24]

^Insults. A sure sign if a failed argument.

Zebu, making up derogatory names for people is infantile - and it’s frowned upon. Please don’t do it.

[naomi24]

Ok. Your choice. We’ll do it the other way.

[ZebuSanctuary]

OK I'm leaving now. Things to do. Please keep my seat warm ;0)

[ToraToraTora]

gawd elp us the brains trust is back!

[ToraToraTora]

Not sure why 14:59 is allowed to remain, It's very abusive trolling from a nasty piece of work who cannot fathom why anyone would not agree with him. The obsession with an irrelevance from another thread that has been answer by at least 3 of us is troubling. We do not need his kind on here. Oddly enough he is starting to resemble another nasty piece of work that was suspended a few weeks ago.

[bobbinwales]

I been wondering for a while if there was someone (or some two) with some old scores to settle with mainly NJ, TTT , maybe Naomi, now am sure of it

[naomi24]

We’ll see.

[pixie374]

Untitled, your full-on hysteria and irrationality, is no help to anybody. That's the equivalent of saying that because I am an atheist and will argue about religious ideology, that I want all religious people wiped out.
You need to understand the difference between how society can work in a healthy way- and between how individuals may feel.
Believe it or not (and I'm guessing you are male), it is equally valid for a woman to have an identity about "what" she is and be offended by being told her feelings are wrong, as it may be for a transperson. Your morals aren't superior, you aren't considering the "whole"- and I'm not even sure you are bothered about transpeople, rather than just kneejerk jumping in.

Clare, entirely your choice- if, as, when you feel like- but I would be interested in your personal views, on a different thread, if you ever want to. I will just re-iterate, as with religion, I can separate between the "whole longterm picture" and between individuals caught up in it. I have some genuine questions, and a few (patronising?) concerns, for you personally.

[gness]

Pixie. Considering what many ABers consider "discussion" I doubt Clare would want to answer questions or give details of her personal life.
For that to be informative blinkers would have to come off. I know that won't happen.

[pixie374]

Gness, and I would think Clare may agree, and is why she has posted here.... I have never seen any "extremists" on AB, like many other sites, and occasionally, the real world. There no doubt are people who would want to destroy transpeople- there are also transpeople who want to destroy women.
A rational discussion, would be far more helpful, than this hysteria about "transphobia" etc....
She can discuss, disclose, whatever she wants and when, or not.... but untitled and keiper person- seem a little too unhinged to actually learn anything. From anyone.

[pixie374]

In any case, it's worth a try?

[Untitled]

"That's the equivalent of saying that because I am an atheist and will argue about religious ideology, that I want all religious people wiped out."

if you take an identical to religious people that naomi and new judge appear to take toward trans people then yeah, i would suspect you want them wiped out...

i have an elderly relative whom i love very much but he does get a bit "animated" over a certain religious minority in the UK (no prizes for guessing)... he wants their places of worship shut down and their schools closed and their courts of arbitration shut and he wants the state to put money into "converting them"... he said the ultimate goal is to "stop it from existing in europe"...

when i suggested to him that what he wanted was genocide he became very upset because his ancestors fought the nazis and he didn't want camps or armbands or "anyone to come to harm"... he found it offensive to think of himself in those terms but it was exactly what his ideas amounted to...

i see much of the same thing regarding trans people. We don't want to hurt them! we're just asking questions... why should they have access to education as their gender? why should they access toilets and changing rooms? why should they be able to amend their birth and death certificates? why don't they just "deal with it" instead of bothering everyone else? why don't they just stop pretending?

if your "tolerance" for trans people ends the minute they step out of the house then it's not tolerance... you want life made as hard for them as possible until they either detransition or they kill themselves... and if you get your way then that is what will happen.

[naomi24]

Untitled, you have no business accusing anyone of wanting people to be ‘wiped out’. That is something you’ve invented so rein in your imagination, stop with the insults and get a grip.

[pixie374]

Thanks, untitled. You seem to be suggesting that there can be extremists- I agree. And also, that you exaggerated what people tell you to the nth degree.

Now, I will try to explain this and perhaps not well! Only women have a sense of who they "are". We have grown up from little girls, being told that we should watch how we act, dress, behave, around men... dont get cornered, know where the exits are, keys between fingers.... etc etc. We have also all seen stats, I'm sure too.
This is something that no male has the same direct experience of. And expecting women to trust any strange man, in a vulnerable situation, is just not reasonable. That isn't to say that transwomen are more dangerous than other men- the risks are exactly the same.
I have 2 questions....
1) why can men not just present how they like amongst other men (and violence is obviously not the response- or you would understand why mote vulnerable females don't appreciate it)
2) and in over 25 years of research, nobody has directly answered this. We have, at best got, occasionally a list of social stereotypes...
Everyone feels how they feel.... they are how they are.... the most important question, is "why" is it interpreted, just now, as being "the wrong sex"?

[Prudie]

I don't know how posters such as zebo, untitled, kuiper etc etc expect us old farts to understand and come round to your way of thinking if they only way you can discuss the topic is by such nasty nasty insults, aggressive posts, name calling and totally incorrect assumptions about wanting people wiped out. I have no idea if Clare has found this type of support heartwarming or not. I can't believe some of these comments are still even here and as Naomi has been heavily involved in the discussion I fully understand why she would be loathe to remove some of the answers. No other mods reading it?

All you've succeeded in doing is scaring many off from even joining in (well me anyway). What a great way to educate...