When Is This Stupid Going To Stop?

[Bobbisox1]

The CofE are considering taking the word Father from the Lords Prayer

https://news.sky.com/story/god-is-neither-male-nor-female160church-of-england-is-considering-gender-neutral-terms-12805759

[babypuss]

wokeness going too far !

[roopower]

I thought God made Jesus in his own image, does that mean Jesus is next in the firing line.

[Atheist]

jourdain; I take your point about ways of avoiding the use of "they", but I do feel it a bit odd to consider refusing to play the organ without being paid, simply on an issue of grammar or verbal elegance. If there is a "God" in the wise, loving etc sense then I'd be very disappointed if 'God' took umbrage at 'wokeness'. If 'God' wouldn't, then isn't it a bit presumptious for humans to do it? I honestly don't understand why there is such a fuss about this issue; it seems to me simply a way of finding something to squabble about, and I'm sure that 'God' would be quite disappointed.

[MWG14]

I am a Christian, a regular at our local church, and I will continue to use the word ‘Father’ when reciting the Lord’s Prayer.

[babypuss]

why change tradition and many many years of observance because of a trend towards pc "ness" if words do not really matter ? some things should simply be left as they are

[Atheist]

Anyway, the Christian 'God' is supposed to have three aspects or components or manifestations. Surely 'God' could have included a token female. The nearest thing to it would, I suppose, be the 'Holy Spirit' because it never had a male body and it wasn't addressed as Father.
Atheism makes a a lot more sense, as it dismisses all this nonsense (over which wars have been fought and martyrs made) and allows people to follow the 'Golden Rule' without encouraging violence.

[naomi24]

Atheist, you’re ‘sure’ what God would think? Really? That’s pretty presumptuous - and from an atheist too. ;o)

[lankeela]

Er - point of order - how can it be the 'Lord's' Prayer - surely it should be the Lord's or Lady's Prayer?

[Atheist]

Naomi; I didn't say that I was sure what God would think, as I don't believe that there is a 'God'. I do make some assumptions about life, but I don't regard them as infallible, much less as doctrine. Perhaps better to stick to the essence of the question, rather than having a tease at me. What do you think about the issue of whether or not 'God' has a gender? I mean talking in the context of an important matter which involves life, the universe, everything and all time, rather than a local spat on a tiny planet about how some animals feel about their own identity and how others should feel. I think we local animals should make an effort to get along with each other and cultivate mutual respect and understanding.

[Atheist]

Anyway, I've got to pop off and start making some pizza dough, and only got 75 minutes to get then on the table on time.

[douglas9401]

Virgin on the ridiculous.

[MargoTester]

^made me giggle Douglas

[piggynose]

The CofE : is this new religion?

[barry1010]

There is a huge stumbling block to this, though.
The CofE refuses to marry or bless same sex couples because it goes against what is written in the Holy Bible.

[naomi24]

This isn’t about whether God has a gender. It’s about changing the language to
suit the demands of the ‘woke’ - who bring conflict to whatever they touch. How the church can even consider messing with The Lord’s Prayer - the very prayer that the Bible tells us was taught directly by Jesus - is quite beyond my comprehension.

[Atheist]

Naomi; you seem very defensive about CofE. I thought you were an atheist. Sorry if I'm wrong there.

[Atheist]

Naomi; you're beginning to sound a bit like the religious pushers here. Is your hatred of woke trumping your hatred of religion? If I've really got you wrong, then I apologise and shall take it into account in any future posts.

[fitdarren]

piggynose - were you put on this site to ask stupid questions??

[Atheist]

fitdarrem: Were you put on this site to be rude? If so, who put you here? In fact, who do you think put piggy here?

[naomi24]

Atheist, you shouldn’t be arguing on a personal level at all.