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I swore my allegiance to "Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the second, her heirs and successors" when i was in the army, so i suppose i've already done so. I'm still dithering on whether or not to accept the invitation to the ceremony. I'm told that Chas has invited me because he doesn't want to be the only one wearing a Burnley FC shirt on the day.
08:46 Sun 30th Apr 2023
What about all his work with the Prince's Trust, a million young people helped, his stance on climate change etc. He stated that he can no longer meddle in political issues once he became king.
Charles was dead right about the carbuncle

https://tinyurl.com/he478jej

and I say this as someone who doesn't think much of the National Gallery as it stands. It's one of the few things I agree with him about, though.
we are all his “subjects” whether we like it or not so having an elective oath is rather stupid

i have very little affection for the monarchy at all so i will not be joining
Aye right!
I won't be joining in this 'chorus. I'm not anti-monarchist & Charles means well (but I think he shouldn't tinker so much with procedure), it's just that it seems a bit 'naff' rather like all the clapping and banging pans for the nurses. I did't join in that either; if a nurse helped me or OH I thanked her or him personally for that action.
just remember, when announcing fealty to the king and his heirs, that Andrew is one of them.
Ah, but Andrew's more about feelty.
Just like Alec Salmond,duggie.
I don’t see this as a big deal, I doubt many people will join in, it just doesn’t seem relevant in this day and age. But I will be glued to the telly watching it all.
I swore allegiance to The Queen when I joined the Royal Marines. She now has passed, so has my allegiance.
I found that banging and clapping for nurses really weird and mindboggling. Why on earth.......... ?
It's no big deal at all Vagus. I agree. We will both be watching and he will fed up with me bitching about some of the ladies outfits and stupid hats!
And yet if you didn’t do it MissT there was a couple that went through you with a dose
Nah,it is too much Nazi-esque,too much SNP-esque.Dont expect me to join in.
Yep true Red! :0)
Whether they're pro monarchy or not, would any sane person do this?
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“Funny you should say that, Ich. Back in the day, Villa commissioned a Video to be made to commemorate something or other. Many of these videos were sold before someone realised that it wasn't a photograph of Aston Villa on the front cover, but Burnley FC”

Good grief that’s embarrassing!
She now has passed, so has my allegiance.

(Marines - dont know much law unsurprisingly )

did the oaths contain "heirs and successors" ? - I think an oath of allegiance is like the cubby-wubbies ( once a cub and dyb dyb dyb, always a cub)
do I walk past an injured man and kick him, and say "Ha I used to have to stop and treat these specimens" ?

Police were invited to 're-new' their oaths, but that is because they are er different to Marines. The idea is to take the oath and mean it this time.

the text of the oath is apparently “I swear that I will pay true allegiance to your majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God.”

So you're swearing allegiance to Andrew and Harry too. I like Harry, every family should have a rebel son (except mine), but no way I'm going to follow Andrew into battle in court.
Historically the only real time, it caused problems ( apart from the Queen Mother referring to her in-laws - - "where are the Huns") is in 1689, as those who adhered to WIlliam III HAD previously sworn allegiance to james II and so had to break it

big diffs even then with the "Anglican church as by parliament enacted".

even csement and lord haw haw tripped up over - swearing allegiance created right and duties
haw haw - deemed allegiance, but it was war-time

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