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It's looking increasingly unlike a Labour win in the 2024 election so after Sir Beer resigns who will become the next Labour leader in history to attempt to become the fourth to win a GE?
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//...it is no guarantee that you won’t be got rid of.
Cameron 2015 gone in 2016.//
Just a point of order: Mr Cameron was not "got rid of." He chucked his toys out of the pram when the result of the referendum did not quite turn out as he expected. In fact it turned out precisely contrary to his expectations, but I won't split hairs.
Cameron 2015 gone in 2016.//
Just a point of order: Mr Cameron was not "got rid of." He chucked his toys out of the pram when the result of the referendum did not quite turn out as he expected. In fact it turned out precisely contrary to his expectations, but I won't split hairs.
In the 2005 General Election, Labour had 35.2% of the vote share vs 32.4% for the Tories (a less than 3% advantage).
Due to our first past the post electoral system, Labour won 355 seats in the House of Commons vs the Tories 210 seats – so a 9% lead would appear more than sufficient to kick the Tories out.
Due to our first past the post electoral system, Labour won 355 seats in the House of Commons vs the Tories 210 seats – so a 9% lead would appear more than sufficient to kick the Tories out.
//Due to our first past the post electoral system, Labour won 355 seats in the House of Commons vs the Tories 210 seats – so a 9% lead would appear more than sufficient to kick the Tories out.//
Whilst I’m not saying you’re wrong, Hymie, it isn’t quite so straightforward as that. The vagaries of the FPTP system mean you have to take a lot more into account. For example, the 9% lead you speak of may be restricted to seats which Labour already hold, in which case it is of no use at all. Conversely, it may all be in seats Labour does not currently hold, in which case it would benefit them enormously. Either of these is unlikely and the reality is almost certainly somewhere in between. The trick is to find out just where.
And of course this neglects to consider what might happen between now and the general Election.
Whilst I’m not saying you’re wrong, Hymie, it isn’t quite so straightforward as that. The vagaries of the FPTP system mean you have to take a lot more into account. For example, the 9% lead you speak of may be restricted to seats which Labour already hold, in which case it is of no use at all. Conversely, it may all be in seats Labour does not currently hold, in which case it would benefit them enormously. Either of these is unlikely and the reality is almost certainly somewhere in between. The trick is to find out just where.
And of course this neglects to consider what might happen between now and the general Election.
Harold McMillan (Iremember the footage of him saying it) - "A week is a long time in politics".
I didn't vote Tory this time - I simply couldn't. But I couldn't vote for any of the other mainstream parties either. I did vote for 'The Yorkshire Party'. No difference in my area, but a lot of others obviously felt the same and E. Yorkshire is now 'no overall control' after being solidly Tory for generations. 3 'Yorkshire Party' councillors.
Hope the correct messages get through.
I didn't vote Tory this time - I simply couldn't. But I couldn't vote for any of the other mainstream parties either. I did vote for 'The Yorkshire Party'. No difference in my area, but a lot of others obviously felt the same and E. Yorkshire is now 'no overall control' after being solidly Tory for generations. 3 'Yorkshire Party' councillors.
Hope the correct messages get through.
entering into TTT world Q: to become the fourth to win a GE?
I fink itll be Lady Foo-foo !
he doesnt make sense: why should II
a week is a long time in politics is usuallyHarold Wilson
Usually attributed to British Prime Minister Harold Wilson in the mid-1960s. Also used by (incorrectly attributed to) Oz PM Gough Whitlam
Jordy sweetie - I wouild be fascinated to know what picture memory you have of SuperMac saying it. The unlikely named Eviatar Zerubabel holds that memory has a social group context because of the nature of remembering, saying and discussing.
( last time I said all the usual suspects on Ab started spluttering. spit everywhere)
oh, it is not a false memory ( it was said) it is juust the recollection differs
I fink itll be Lady Foo-foo !
he doesnt make sense: why should II
a week is a long time in politics is usuallyHarold Wilson
Usually attributed to British Prime Minister Harold Wilson in the mid-1960s. Also used by (incorrectly attributed to) Oz PM Gough Whitlam
Jordy sweetie - I wouild be fascinated to know what picture memory you have of SuperMac saying it. The unlikely named Eviatar Zerubabel holds that memory has a social group context because of the nature of remembering, saying and discussing.
( last time I said all the usual suspects on Ab started spluttering. spit everywhere)
oh, it is not a false memory ( it was said) it is juust the recollection differs
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