General Election.

[ToraToraTora]

Is Starmer Poised to play the Ace Card. At the GE..With a promise to rejoin the EU? lets hope so that will definitely lose him the election.

[choux]

TTT, no argument from me :)

[fiveleaves]

There is a clear majority now to rejoin the EU. I dont think it will be the issue that decides the election. Far more pressing concerns to deal with

[ToraToraTora]

Even if there is fiveleaves that will disappear when they realise what the EUSSR will demand for us to rejoin. We'll be a complete vassal state in no time. I don't think even ramainers want that. It's the hard line 5c that makes the most noise. Most remainers have accepted democracy and are making the best of it.

[fender62]

the eu imposing migrant quotas on poland and hungry 20 grand per if you dont take them as a fine, really and people want to rejoin this cabal, the eu should get a grip in boat arrivals, push them back, and stop the ngo boats unloading them, no one wants these free loaders in there country, if they nipped this in the bud yrs ago, we would not have all the dinghy arrivals, as for rejoin err your getting mugged and asking for more.

[ToraToraTora]

hymie: " Rather than being rule makers, we have now become rule takers " - when were we ever rule makers in the EUSSR?

[New Judge]

//There is a clear majority now to rejoin the EU.//

How do you know?

[ToraToraTora]

bang on fender, BA, Hymie and co are just determined that we are run as Vichy Britain.

[Old_Geezer]

Interesting how some choose to view something. A sizeable section of folk believed that taking back control of our borders would allow a decent parliament to vote in legislation to stop net immigration into our already overcrowded nation. I doubt many,
if any at all, thought that exiting the EU would do it on it's own, but that it would be a neceassary step. And that brings up the subject of sovereignty, which is what I suspect the vast number of leave voters really wanted. I doubt few, if any, leavers thought the whole of the saved EU annual subscription would go directly to the NHS because they were able to see using it there was just one of many possible suggestions. It was always the remainer contingent, presumably because they didn't have the capacity to understand, or possibly because they'd run out of valid arguments and were desperate, who continually lied about what was written on the side of a bus; even though it was there for anyone to see what actually was written. One may have hoped they'd have found that too embarrassing, but apparently not...

[Ryzen]

Its official..gulliver and Hymie are co-joined twins..because you need more than one head to be so stupid :-)

[ToraToraTora]

OG: "...... who continually lied about what was written on the side of a bus; even though it was there for anyone to see what actually was written." - yes it's an affliction OG, called RBID, there is on going research to find a cure, discussed here:
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Body-and-Soul/Question1839846.html

[bazwillrun]

spot on Ryzen...calling either of them stupid would be a compliment of the highest order

[10ClarionSt]

I don't think this would be a vote winner for Labour. The referendum was a close call and, yes, some would change their vote if a referendum was held now, but I think it would be too devisive. Not a good idea.

[JDavis]

[email protected]

Are you sure we run our own country? I thought most of our energy companies, train companies etc were owned by foreign governments.

[ToraToraTora]

yeah and Mr Patel owns the corner shop. What's your point?

[JDavis]

Thought it was self-evident, TTT.

[JDavis]

Bazwillrun,

Do you actually have any points to make on this issue, apart from slagging off other posters?

[ToraToraTora]

Ownership of companies is irrelevant to this discussion. For good or bad the elected government runs the country, end of.

[New Judge]

//I thought most of our energy companies, train companies etc were owned by foreign governments.//

They may do. But if the elected government wanted to either nationalise their industries or (say) impose price restraints on them, they could do so.

[Gromit]

The Tories aren’t going to re-Nationalise the Railways, that is bonkers.
So Bonkers, the Labour probably won’t do it either.

[Deskdiary]

I can vaguely remember when the railways were run by the state, and it was an unmitigated disaster.

I’ve been commuting to London, every day, for the better part of 30 years, and by and large the service provided is good, although it did annoy me during Covid when I was catching the train and I was often the only person in the carriage. We were paying them to ferry fresh air.

To suggest the railways would be better off state-run is fanciful delusion at best.