General Election.

[ToraToraTora]

Is Starmer Poised to play the Ace Card. At the GE..With a promise to rejoin the EU? lets hope so that will definitely lose him the election.

[anneasquith]

Labour require a new leader if they wish to win the next GE .

[Hymie]

With more than 95% of those under 30 believing that leaving the EU was the wrong decision – I reckon it could be a vote winner.

[choux]

Andrew Neil's comments are interesting, TTT, reckoning it will be a decade's wait to reap Brexit's benefit. The EU has played a significant role in this by its desire to stop other countries leaving.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-12228401/ANDREW-NEIL-Brexit-transform-Britain-neither-Sunak-nor-Starmer-true-believer.html

"Even Keir Starmer's Labour party, once mustard keen to thwart Brexit from happening at all despite the referendum result, has seemingly abandoned that project (at least for now)."
and
"I was surprised, given the paucity of plusses since leaving the EU, that 70 per cent still backed Brexit."

[Hymie]

With 70% of Brexiteers still backing Brexit – this proves my claim that Brexiteers are indeed stupid people.

[choux]

I believe sensible voters know the worth of waiting for a good thing.

[ToraToraTora]

12:40 do you have any evidence to back that up?
12:51 once again surely you can see how stupid it is to call the majority of the electorate stupid?

[bazwillrun]

"this proves my claim that Brexiteers are indeed stupid people."

and remainers are what exactly...

[Hymie]

What did those Brexiteers who voted leave (and still believe in Brexit) vote for – to wreck the UK economy and make themselves poorer; because that is what they got.

[Peter Pedant]

a lot of the Brexiters have since died from dementia innit?

Mainly old and decrepit - I mean look at AB for chrissakes for incontrovertible evidence - they have died and been replaced by young vibrant - the-old-are-always-wrong new voters

[Hymie]

Having placed trade barriers between ourselves and our nearest and largest trading partners; and these barriers are about to become worse once the UK starts to impose import controls (in a short while) – just when do you expect these Brexit unicorns to arrive?

[JimF]

"What did those Brexiteers who voted leave vote for"

From those I've spoken to, a sizeable proportion that it would "stop Johnny Foreigner coming over here and taking all our jobs". A small proportion actually did believe that by leaving the EU £350m would go to the NHS each week instead...

[anneasquith]

Ah yes the bus, many many people fell for it .

[ToraToraTora]

I see RBID is still infectious......

[Hymie]

The yougov poll data is here:-

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/5wuhxdx0xb/TheTimes_VI_230621_W.pdf

But it appears the age stated should have been 25 and not 29.

70% (Brexit voters still supporting Brexit) of 52% (the electorate who voted for Brexit) of 72% (the total electorate that voted) – gives a figure of 26% of the adult population who are stupid enough to believe Brexit to be a success for the UK.

Based on postings on AB, I personally think a higher percentage figure for the number of stupid people in the UK population, is more likely.

[fender62]

Hymie, 95% of those under 30 believing that leaving the EU was the wrong decision, you think under 30's can swing an election, thye are just piffed because it complicates there holiday plans, thye have no business acumen let alone believe in sovereignty, and don't mind sending billions to the eu and pay for unelected beaucrats who spend that money we sent, give your neighbor you bank details and have them look after your finances.

[ToraToraTora]

choux: "Andrew Neil's comments are interesting, TTT, reckoning it will be a decade's wait to reap Brexit's benefit. " - I'm seeing the benefit now, we run our own country that's all I care about. The 5C cannot seem to comprehend anything beyond the economics of the situation, which no one can say anything accurately about anyway. The figures of the whole world are skewed by multiple crises.

[bobbinwales]

^ Am now thinking Hymie is perhaps a brexiteer having a laugh and just trying to make ongoing Remainers who cant accept how things are are look like idiots

[Hymie]

TTT completely fails to understand the position we find ourselves having left the EU. Rather than being rule makers, we have now become rule takers – our industries/businesses have no choice but to follow EU rules if they want to trade with them, but we now have no say in those rules.

[Gromit]

// Is Starmer about to promise to rejoin the EU? //

No.
Made up news by desperate Conservatives.

// Sir Keir Starmer has ruled out rejoining the European Union as he laid out Labour's plan to tackle issues caused by Brexit. //

It is not Labour Policy so he cannot promise it. It would have to go to a vote at the Party Conference and no such policy change or vote has taken away.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit, your mate gulliver posted on this so I naturally assumed it must be gospel.