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gulliver1 | 10:46 Sat 22nd Jul 2023 | News
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A new poll says if a referendum was held now.
Only 31% of Brits would vote to leave the EU.
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Maybe im wrong,but prior to Brexit,it seemed we had a lot less illegal immigrants rather than legal immigrants.Have you ever watched the YouTube videos of the French gendarmes watching the illegal immigrants getting into their dinghys on the French coast?When asked why they arent stopping these people,they reply-UK not in EU anymore,why should we give a...
07:49 Sun 23rd Jul 2023
Yeah but no but
if the question were

when you voted for Boris did you think he was not lying
and now do you think he is a liar?

it would be 100%

and yet we cant change history - but we can rewrite it - putting a positive spin on Dies Boisei wd tax even the most ardent ABer
Once thousands experience the joys of queuing at Dover for their summer holiday – that 31% is sure to drop further.
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Hymie @ 12.00. Yes it will be a case of... "Who's sorry now"...
Every big event is of its time, and hindsight is pointless.

Anything and everything from voting fir Brexit to wearing that dodgy flares-and-tanktop combo in 1974 - everything can be reassessed with hindsight, and would be done differently.

But it's irrelevant.

We do what we do at the time.

With that time over again we might do differently.

But we can't, so it's pointless thinking about it.

We make our choices, we live with them, good bad or indifferent
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British businesses are suffering because , EU Citizens can no longer travel without visas to work in the UK, like they could before Brexit.
Britain is not just short of Health care workers ETC .Brexit has now hit the construction industry and are desperate for Bricklayers, masons, roofers, tilers,carpenters,joiners and plasterers..... All because of Brexit.
//Brexit has now hit the construction industry and are desperate for Bricklayers, masons, roofers, tilers,carpenters,joiners and plasterers..... All because of Brexit.//

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Gastarbeiter. Do you know what that means? Germany as well as a lot of Continental Europe including the Netherlands,Sweden Finland and Norway ran this scheme. This was in the early 60s long before Brexit. These countries also retired Foreign Labour. Germany had the Turks and British building for them. Remember Auf Wiedersen Pet. That was Gastarbeiter. It happens from time to time and nothing to do with Brexit.
It actually ran between 55 and 73.
With that time over again we might do differently.
But we can't, so it's pointless thinking about it.

and so we never learn
and go on making the same mistakes again and again

reminds me of everyones teenage years
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Das ist nur deine meinung.
gastarbeiter program here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastarbeiter

not an untrammelled success. 4m at one time (Turks) who cdnt speak German and were rather bad at Turkish and so could only day labour
the troll is back...never mind...hes not cured
Baz - If you are going to drop off-thread nonsense about 'trolling' please either be specific, so your comment can be addressed, or stick to the point of the thread.

Thank you.
//Das ist nur deine meinung.//
No Gulliver it isn't just my opinion. It is fact if you read PPs Wilkepedia post. From time to time other countries run short of labour despite Brexit not because of it.
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yeah but no but
I thought I was the 'troll' - but I am not ( a troll: memo to self, I am writing on AB) - I recollect ( imperfect memory I regret) that the gast arbeiter program was ended because there were defects
and not ended, because it was a raving success.

Not as bad as Merkel about her policy of OStpoliticak ( kissing the russians in short) - " I have been wrong for 20y" and she left

Now I think, that was a reference to Ts ar Nicholas II who resisted demands to abdicate with the question - "have I been wrong for 25 y?" - and the British AMbassador who was in the room on that fateful day, replied: " yes your majesty"

troll me truly



Gully doesnt equal PP - I protest !
I demand a recount !
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Tora, I think Hymie gives a good debate although not stuff I will agree with but nonetheless intelligent, he should disassociate himself from Gulliver who’s quite the opposite and Pp? Well I never know what he’s talking about anyway
Oh and Gulliver normally hits back with some kind of personal abuse ,( watch this space)
bobbi: "Tora, I think Hymie gives a good debate although not stuff I will agree with but nonetheless intelligent," - are we talking about the same hymie? he doesn't debate at all just trawls the net for videos that back his view, he ignores anything else.

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