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// Precisely.
The original idea of asylum for refugees was that they fled where they were in peril and sought haven in the first safe country in which they arrived. //
That may have been the original idea, but situations where, say, millions flee Ukraine show its obvious and inherent flaw. Neighbouring counties can't handle every asylum seeker when the numbers stretch so high, so naturally some have to "flow" further away in order to ensure that the countries nearest to a given disaster aren't overwhelmed.
It's perhaps also relevant that refugee policies were crafted when the global population was much smaller than it is today.
The original idea of asylum for refugees was that they fled where they were in peril and sought haven in the first safe country in which they arrived. //
That may have been the original idea, but situations where, say, millions flee Ukraine show its obvious and inherent flaw. Neighbouring counties can't handle every asylum seeker when the numbers stretch so high, so naturally some have to "flow" further away in order to ensure that the countries nearest to a given disaster aren't overwhelmed.
It's perhaps also relevant that refugee policies were crafted when the global population was much smaller than it is today.
// I doubt Syrians, Afghans, etc,. etc., would want to end up in Africa either. //
Probably not. Still, as I say, there's no way around the issue that we can only send people to Rwanda, or to any other African country, with the explicit agreement of that country. That puts a clear limit on the numbers we can send elsewhere, and consequently a clear limit on the deterrent effect you're hoping for.
Probably not. Still, as I say, there's no way around the issue that we can only send people to Rwanda, or to any other African country, with the explicit agreement of that country. That puts a clear limit on the numbers we can send elsewhere, and consequently a clear limit on the deterrent effect you're hoping for.
// If we sent a couple of boatloads to Africa, the rest, knowing that Africa would be their ultimate destination, would not come here. //
How does this make sense? We can send, currently, at most 200 or so people to Rwanda. 50,000 arrived last year. Once we've reached capacity, we can send no more people to Rwanda. Where, then, is the deterrent? Almost everybody who comes to the UK won't be sent to Africa.
How does this make sense? We can send, currently, at most 200 or so people to Rwanda. 50,000 arrived last year. Once we've reached capacity, we can send no more people to Rwanda. Where, then, is the deterrent? Almost everybody who comes to the UK won't be sent to Africa.
// The deterrent is in knowing it can - and will - be done. //
Fair enough. But it can only be done at a rate of a couple of hundred a year. So once that's run out, it can't be done. So the deterrent ends at that point, assuming it ever existed.
And, still, this relies on people knowing about all this, or on correctly evaluating the risk that they personally will fall under it.
Fair enough. But it can only be done at a rate of a couple of hundred a year. So once that's run out, it can't be done. So the deterrent ends at that point, assuming it ever existed.
And, still, this relies on people knowing about all this, or on correctly evaluating the risk that they personally will fall under it.
Clare.... Naomi has her point of view and her beliefs and will not allow herself to be persuaded any differently by any argument. It really isn't worth talking to people like that who know what they know and know what they hate. I admire your perseverance, but not your perseverance. (Work that one out!)
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