Time To Reverse Devolution?

[ToraToraTora]

It's getting out of hand now, the last think any of us need is more snouts in the trough.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-66807278

 

[Old_Geezer]

The idiots allowed devolution; putting a genie back into it's bottle is a nigh impossible task. But I guess clearly incompetent governance might be a good reason to say, "Sod the agreements we're stepping in to save the public." Trouble is, finding more competent politicians able to make such a case. Plus they'd need the support of the military too.

[douglas9401]

I sense the genesis of the boggle-eyed variant, transmitted via warm beer and sovereignty.

 

 

[THECORBYLOON]

OG, " Plus they'd need the support of the military too."

Do you not think  staging a coup because the Sennedd wants a few more members is barking mad?

[maggiebee]

Enough snouts in the trough at Westminster?  Oh dear, never mind, they're the good and the great hahahahahahaha

 

[Ellipsis]

> Bringing 36 more politicians to the Welsh Parliament could cost as much as £17.8m extra a year ... documents from Labour ministers have estimated the cost of a bigger Senedd for the first time ... supporters say more politicians are needed because the Senedd has more law and tax powers than it did when it was set up.

If 36 more people need to be working in Wales, presumably 36 fewer people will be working in Westminster ... those people who won't be doing what they used to be doing?  No?  What a surprise ...  why didn't they think of the extra cost earlier, you might ask?

[ynnafymmi]

Its nine years today to when the SNP had their disastrous referendum.One good thing came out of it,we got rid of Randy Sandy.No more referendums(pretendy or otherwise)for a long,long time.Good.

[anneasquith]

I'm stealing a response ttfn used often ?

 

Thud ...........

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[Old_Geezer]

No, firstly as government action to remove a layer of government underneath it doesn't really constitute a coup given the national government is above the regional ones, it's more of a reorg; and secondly spending an absolute fortune to screw up the speed limits and thus make things not only more difficult but encouraging a culture where personal responsibility is a thing of the past, just to boost the ego of those causing it, is much much more barking. Such idiots need deposing as soon as reasonably possible for the sake of all.

[ichkeria]

No.

The UK needs less centralised govt, not more.

If there are snouts in the trough, desnout the trough but don't throw away the "trough"

[Hopkirk]

I blame Blair 

[ichkeria]

It may be that Wales does not need any more MPs or whatever, but that doesn't mean the whole lot should be canned.

Plainly

[THECORBYLOON]

There will be some new UK Parliamentary constituencies at the next general election and Wales will then have eight fewer MPs in the Commons.

 

The thirty-six additional Senedd members have no connexion with the UK parliament and the two changes are not connected.

[ichkeria]

... and the money saved by culling Wales's MPs will surely partly compensate for the extra Senedders ...

[THECORBYLOON]

The overeall number of MPs in Parliament will remain the same at 650 so there will be no money saved because of fewer MPs from Welsh constituencies.

[Canary42]

Yes - rejoin Europe

[youngmafbog]

Yes, it is time.

 

Offer a one time vote of Independance where if they want to stay there will be no more regional grand councils and if they want to go then fine.  Off you toddle.