The General Medical Council Is All Confusion

[naomi24]

'The General Medical Council, that august body which regulates and disciplines the medical profession, has removed the term “mother” and references to women from its staff maternity policy', writes straight-speaking Ann Widdecombe.   'Well', she says, 'if the GMC doesn’t understand biology then who does? Let me help the poor confused souls by explaining it to them.'

 

Ann thought doctors were supposed to know what a woman is, and so she does explain it to them.  Well said that 'woman' - and for now I use the word advisedly. 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/ann-widdecombe/1814578/woman-gmc-russell-brand

 

What can be done to halt this ridiculous march of fantasy once and for all?  A start, I think, would be to stop the demand to refer to men who claim to be women as 'she' or 'her'.  The media encourages this farce and even refers to convicted 'trans' rapists as 'she' or 'her', presumably as a token of respect - but what's to respect - and what happened to respect for real women?

[bednobs]

i know you dont care what other people think of your postings anyway 😁

[naomi24]

You haven't been porevented from having your say, bednobs, and you've had it.   This is the News section, it's a serious topic and this thread needs to get back on track.  

[naomi24]

*prevented*

[andy-hughes]

bednobs - // i know you dont care what other people think of your postings anyway 😁 //

Actually, I do.

It would be seriously boring for me to simply scattergun opinions left and right regardless of the responses from anyone else.

There are some posters whose opinions and responses matter less than others, but I read and think about all of them, with the notable exception of one regular poster, I am sure you know who that is.

[bednobs]

i know i havent been prevented - i just find it ironic when smeone says " heres what i think of this totally un-thread-related thing, now i have commented, everyone else must get back to the topic"

getting back to the topic though, i still don't see a difference between being respectful to trans women and being respectful to real women - surely just being respectful to fellow humans covers it?

[andy-hughes]

bednobs - // getting back to the topic though, i still don't see a difference between being respectful to trans women and being respectful to real women - surely just being respectful to fellow humans covers it? //

I have to agree.

I would not stop calling a convicted rapist by their chosen prefix on the basis of their crime and conviction.

That's not because I think they deserve the courtesy, it's because it aligns with my level of respect in addressing anyone, which is for my benefit, not theirs.

[naomi24]

bednobs, //i still don't see a difference between being respectful to trans women and being respectful to real women//

 

Let's put it this way.  Mothers, on the whole, choose to be referred to as mothers because that's what they are.  However, despite their preferences the GMC, for fear of causing offence, has decided to remove that word from their literature - so the notion that everyone must respect everyone else doesn't really work at all in the case of mothers does it - because now they're offended - and with good reason.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Question Author

bednobs, //i still don't see a difference between being respectful to trans women and being respectful to real women//

 

Let's put it this way.  Mothers, on the whole, choose to be referred to as mothers because that's what they are.  However, despite their preferences the GMC, for fear of causing offence, has decided to remove that word from their literature - so the notion that everyone must respect everyone else doesn't really work at all in the case of mothers does it - because now they're offended - and with good reason. //

I don't see how that impacts on bednob's notion of respect.

Because the GMC is twisting simple form and custom for its own perverse wokeism is not, as far as i can see, connected to bednobs assertion that respect is universal.

The GMC is doing a disservice to women and transwomen, and as usual in these circumstances, in trying to please everyone, ends up pleasing no-one.

[bednobs]

"the notion that everyone must respect everyone else doesn't really work at all in the case of mothers does it - because now they're offended"

are they though - why? anne widdecome isnt a mother, so she can't have been offended as a mother

[naomi24]

She's offended as a woman... and so am I.  The GMC is very selective when dishing out respect.

[bednobs]

ps, my local maternity hospital refers to mothers (and fathers) as "parents" because they wanted to be inclusive to the dads.  That doesnt seem like a bad thing to me, and rather neatly sidesteps the whole debate, much as you say you do about usernames vs pronouns earlier

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // The GMC is very selective when dishing out respect. //

They are not the only ones!!

 

[naomi24]

That isn't why the GMC is doing this - but I think you know that, bednobs.

[naomi24]

Clearly they are not, AH.

 

[bednobs]

hang on -it's exactly why they are doing it isn't it - so one group of people are not left out?

[naomi24]

No, that isn't exactly what they're doing.  Men who think they are women have their demands met.   Mothers don't have a choice because that word no longer exists in the GMC's vocabulary.

[bednobs]

so why, in your opinion, are they doing it?

[ToraToraTora]

The BA has summed it up nicely we now have the new fascism being forced on the masses by the wokestapo. If even the quacks don't know what a woman is we are truly Donalded.

[perseverer]

I don't suppose anyone here has actually read the full GMC statement to see if there is a specific context.