Is Tony Blair Pulling Starmer's Strings?

[naomi24]

Interesting article from Ron Liddell who says:

 

//Oddly enough, it looks like they are one and the same person.

 Because while Starmer is popping up all over the place, such as in Paris meeting the French president Emmanuel Macron — it’s Blair who is pulling all the strings.

Blair is playing the part of Rod Hull. Poor old Keir is his gormless Emu. 

 

It was Blair who fixed it for Starmer to go to the big French bash. He reportedly had a quiet word with the oily Macron — and sorted!

 

But he’s also beginning to direct policy.//

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24054662/wise-up-keir-starmer-nobody-wants-tony-blair-ii/

[naomi24]

Shedman, //gulliver is this the same Dominic Cummings who you used  to hate with a passion but now seem to love. //

 

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" 

[andy-hughes]

String-pulling, and simple back-seat driving has been a characteristic of ex-PM's for decades.

Having had power, they can never accept that they simply don't have it anymore, so they pry and push and needle from the sidelines, unable to live with being unwanted. 

[nicebloke1]

Don't ever make the mistake of thinking that you are,

Indispensable.

Infallible.

Untouchable.

Unanswerable.

Boris made all 4. There is always someone out there who thinks, and may be are, bigger a better than you who will come along and knock you off your high horse.

[andy-hughes]

He had an excellent role model in Tony Blair, who believed all those things writ large back then, and believes them even more now.

[douglas9401]

He does appear to be kept busy.

[nicebloke1]

I don't disagree, and Starmer is just another crook that looks like heading for number 10, with very little if anything to get this country back on the main road of any kind of success.

[Zacs-Master]

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth.....

'The gross domestic product of the British economy was 2.23 trillion British pounds in 2022 and was the fifth-largest global economy'

https://www.statista.com/topics/6500/the-british-economy/#:~:text=The%20gross%20domestic%20product%20of,China%2C%20Japan%2C%20and%20Germany.

[andy-hughes]

It looks like both leaders are engaged in a game of political one-upmanship - who can produce the most shocking piece of policy to upstage the other.

The election may swing on which is seen as the most barking by the voters, since it's a given that they winning party will be the one they dislike least.

Will it be Sunak and his bonkers climate change nonsense, or Starmer's the EU are alright really?

Or something else they dream up before now and polling day.

[naomi24]

//Will it be Sunak and his bonkers climate change nonsense//

 

It was someone else's nonsense - the same nonsense that Labour endorses - and Rishi has, very sensibly, hauled back on it.

[andy-hughes]

The electorate have famously short memories.

If Sunak is pedaling it, which he was, then it's Sunak's idea, even if it wasn't. 

[nicebloke1]

If either leader had the welfare of this country in mind they would but aside this tit for tat and get their heads together to try and sort out the invasion of thousands of crooks and scammers walking freely onto our beaches. This country is getting more dangerous by the hour. It may not yet be in your back yard, but it soon will be if no action is taken.

[andy-hughes]

Nicebloke - That would mean common sense and cooperation. 

Our politicians don't do either.

[naomi24]

//If Sunak is pedaling it, which he was, then it's Sunak's idea, even if it wasn't. //

 

That makes no sense, but that aside it was his idea to haul back on it.

[nicebloke1]

Unless these politicians do start to wake up and see the immediate threat facing this country they will have even bigger problems in trying to goven than zero whatever.

You may well laugh at this statement, but I consider the thousands invading this country at the moment far more concerning than Putin. Putin is being held back and regardless of his threats knows its check, and will never be checkmate.

We are doing nothing that I can see in holding  back these swarm of ants. And you need to ask this question, how many terrorists are camouflarged within these boats that are landing day after day? Once they arrive here, all they need is a little time to get organise, and then you will see the sh*** hit the fan big time.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - //

// If Sunak is pedaling it, which he was, then it's Sunak's idea, even if it wasn't. //

 

That makes no sense, but that aside it was his idea to haul back on it. //

 

It does make sense.

People believe that a policy is the brainchild of whomever it suits them to  believe.

It doesn't matter if one party started something, and another partiy picked it up and ran with it - whomever is talking about in the present will be assumed to have thought of it.

It's not a new pehnomenon.

If you go back that far, remember the end of pirate radio?

For decades, the Tories have carried the blame for it, and they definitely approved of it, but it wasn't their action.

Labour's Tony Benn, as Postmaster General, saw through the Marine Offences Bill stopping pirate radio, but the Tories are blamed to this day.