Yet Another Senseless Knife Crime

[Ken4155]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/girl-15-stabbed-to-death-on-bus-as-she-headed-to-school/ar-AA1hkrvM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e6a44197a5074693a31bb52060b87

 

My heart bleeds for the girl and her parents.

 

[youngmafbog]

This will get worse unless someone actually has the bottle to take them on.  Call me Dave wanted to be tough on knife crime but jack happened and we have seen nothing since.

One big problem is the liberal judiciary thought.  Plod can bring all the cases they like to Court but whilst right-on judges give them a smack on the wrist nothing will change.

Should be:

Carry a knife 5 years (min). Three strikes and you are out.

Use a knife bought to the scene 10 years (min) 3 strike rule again.

Kill with a knife bought to the scene life - no parole

[ToraToraTora]

Yes YMB, it's basically death by Trobiscite.

[gulliver1]

Is it safe to walk the streets alone, or even catch the school bus in Britain any longer ? It just ain't safe in the UK .Britannia no longer rule the waves. but the thugs rule the streets.

[youngmafbog]

If you bothered to open your eyes you would see a pattern emerging across the West.

It's due to liberals infiltrating positions of influence (as they couldnt win at the ballot box) and pushing their agenda on the majority.

[retrocop]

As soon as a Sec 60 order is instigated in these areas who screams the loudest to have them removed ?

[naomi24]

//My heart bleeds for the girl and her parents.//

 

Unimaginable grief - and the killer's parents too, if they're any sort of parents, must be utterly distraught.   One young life taken, another young life ruined.   It's all so senseless.

 

[fender62]

seems a certain section of society has a propensity for knife crime, specially in london...why is that, is it an imported cultural thing.

[theshedman]

Parents, Teachers, Police etc are frightened to do anything these days in case they themselves get taken to court or lose their jobs.  I know a Teacher who says they can't teach these days as if they so much as tell off a pupil they are under scrutiny for months or even suspended.  Carrying knives seems to be the norm these days with many children and it's only when something like this happens that people start to think something needs to be done.

[youngmafbog]

If its London then usualy the likes of Ghengis Retro.

Stop and search is a powerful tool as is zero tolerance.  It worked in NYC under major Giuliani and now we can see the result of liberals in NYC.

[Canary42]

Politicians love to be seen to be doing things - troube is they're not effective things.  I wonder how many knifings have been avoided because of the ban on selling knives to youngsters - SFA probably. But the politicians pat themselves on the back for introducing such ineffectual laws.

We need much more severe minimum sentences so the pathetic judiciary have no option but to apply more effective deterrents.

[ToraToraTora]

When I was a school kid we all carried knives, no one got stabbed.

[youngmafbog]

//Teacher who says they can't teach these days as if they so much as tell off a pupil they are under scrutiny for months or even suspended. //

Sadly this does happen.  One of my nephews was a teacher in a deprived area (he idealisitcally thought he could do some good) but it just got rediculous.  He could see himself being the next target by the kids so he got out and went to teach at a private school in Madrid.  (Yes you can go work in the EU despite the remainers claims).

[youngmafbog]

//When I was a school kid we all carried knives, no one got stabbed.//

Yes scouting knives or pen knives not machettes.

And I rememember a couple of people being stabbed at school - playing chicken!

[ToraToraTora]

Yes I didn't mean we all had 14inch zombie knives!

I can remember my wood work teacher grinding a chip out of my sheath knife and sharpenning for me!

[Canary42]

Draconian sentences for draconian crimes.

[retrocop]

//If its London then usualy the likes of Ghengis Retro.//

or Ms Abbot YMFB.

We entertained my BIL and wife last week who had travelled to our London borough from Cornwall for a few days.

The scourge of stabbings in London was discussed. They said,in unison, that as soon as they read of these killings in their daily paper they could guess the ethnicity of the killers before mugshots are shown if and when the cowardly assailants are apprehended.

[Ken4155]

YMF, i totally agree with you re tougher sentences but i would go further in that i would stipujlate the whole sentence should be served - not half and the rest out on licence.

[retrocop]

I have carried a small penknife in my pocket most of my life. I have one in my pocket for the purpose they were intended. A pencil not a quill

[Lie-in King]

//When I was a school kid we all carried knives, no one got stabbed.//

//Yes scouting knives or pen knives not machettes.//

I'm astonished.  I never saw a knife of any description being shown or used by anyone at school - or the neighbouring schools for that matter & the schools often had quite large "bundles" in one of the local parks.

My thoughts are with the young girl's family & friends & I hope the culprit is dealt with as harshly as possible.

[retrocop]

 Lie-in King

 

 

//I'm astonished.  I never saw a knife of any description being shown or used by anyone at school - or the neighbouring schools for that matter & the schools often had quite large "bundles" in one of the local parks//

LIK

I think that speaks volumes for a different generation. Kids were frightened of repercussions and to some extent had respect for discipline.

I doubt many kids would pull a knife in a 'bundle' even if they carried one. Today we have a feral cowardly pack  laying down their laws of the jungle because they do not fear 'grasses' or weak ineffectual judiciary.