One For The Climate Change Naysayers

[Canary42]

Unfortunately with their heads in the sand they probably won't notice it getting warmer.  Never mind, one day soon there'll be plenty more sand for them.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/climate-chart-why-scientists-worried-113948028.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

[Deskdiary]

Seriously though, on what planet do these clowns live on that they are so arrogant and narcissistic that they think disrupting a play will have any bearing on their ridiculous stance and they will get people on side.

I'm not a violent man, but I'd have loved to see an audience member punch one of them squarely in the face.

They are selfish cretins.

[Ellipsis]

Net zero by 2050 ... assume there was only two to ways do it.

1) go to net zero now, and in 2050 it's still net zero

2) actually increase emissions now, and switch off the emissions in 2050. So it's net zero in 2050 .

Are they the same? Obviously not ... there would be a lot more emissions between now and 2050 in the second scenario.

Both scenarios are extreme, but scenario one was closer to how we were behaving, and scenario two is closer to how we are now behaving after Rishi Sunak's climate announcements. Pumping more CO2 into the atmospherein the next couple of decades, when we know we should be pumping in less ...

Fine for older people, they may be dead before it really hits them. Not so fine for younger people ...

[Deskdiary]

And disrupting Les Mis helps that how?

[naomi24]

^I'll second that question.

[Ellipsis]

Fighting selfishness with selfishness ...

[jourdain2]

Baffled, naomi.

I've been saying what New Judge has said, for years.  I'm currently doing a lot of historical research and the climate has changed quite dramatically several times over the last 2,000 years (and I'm talking about the UK) often with dire, life-threatening results.

Money would be better spent in countering the effects of climate change - we are not going to stop it.

[tomus42]

I'll answer it then. It gets people talking about it as we are doing now on this thread.

Yes, most of us are being critical, but they've achieved their aim.

[fripfrip]

tomus42,i take it you wasn't in the audience when the show was rudely interrupted,maybe if you had paid a nice amount of your hard earned cash to see the show you would think otherwise.

[dave50]

I'm waiting for the day the eco nut jobs meet their match and someone punches their lights out or runs them over, it will make my day. 

[Deskdiary]

They absolutely haven't achieved there aim Tomus. That's a nonsense statement.

All the've achieved is hatred.

[New Judge]

…but they've achieved their aim

As far as their antics at Les Mis is concerned, all they’ve achieved is demonstrating what utter selfish pillocks they are. That’s the only thing people are talking about.

This may sound a trifle heretic, but the world will not come to an end if we do not reach “net zero” (i.e. manage a fairly good bookkeeping exercise) by 2050. Or by 2150 for that matter. Life will go on and humans will adapt to whatever the climate brings. The world will need to burn fossil fuels for decades to come and the amount burnt is likely to increase rather than decrease. China burns more coal than the rest of the world taken together. In both 2021 and 2022 it installed more coal-fired capacity than the rest of the world combined.  This amounted to 30 Gigawatts in each of those two years. The UK’s entire output of electricity from all sources is normally less than that and remember this is just the additional capacity – produced by coal – that China is installing each year. It has pledged to cease funding and installing coal power plants overseas (though has not yet stopped doing so), but its domestic programme of installation shows no sign of slowing down. These new plants will burn coal up to and well beyond 2050. China’s appetite for coal is insatiable. It used to be a net exporter of coal but such has been its expansion that it now burns all it produces and needs to import considerable quantities. It has as much chance of hitting “net zero” as it had of achieving “zero Covid.”

This country and those in the rest of Europe, are peeing in the wind. Their virtuous strategy (“to set a good example”) is set to impoverish their economies and set back the living standards of their citizens. All for nothing. The big hitters are not going to be so foolish as to cripple their economies, and they will continue to burn stuff in quantities that make European consumption look like small bonfires on November 5th.

I would have far more respect for the pillocks who interrupted a musical in London’s West End if they had travelled to Beijing and clambered onto the stage at the Chang'an to throw yellow powder over the Peking Opera singers.

[Deskdiary]

Shhhh, NJ, you'll give Thunberg (and a number of people on AB) a thromby!

[Ellipsis]

It's amazing (not) the number of people who talk about Just Stop Oil's selfishness - and rightly, they are selfish - without realising that they themselves are  selfish for destroying a world that their children and grandchildren won't see.  For many generations, the next generation had a better life than the ones before. But that doesn't seem to be the case for much longer, and the current older generations are exacerbating that by literally throwing fuel on the flames. If you want selfish, that's selfish - much more so than a few random stunts.

[JDavis]

Stop blinding us with science, dave50.

[ToraToraTora]

17:14, judge, bang on as usual.

[webbo3]

ellipsis @ 23:05

\\It's amazing (not) the number of people who talk about Just Stop Oil's selfishness - and rightly, they are selfish - without realising that they themselves are  selfish for destroying a world that their children and grandchildren won't see//

 

It's this generation with all their gadgets, phones, computers and throw away lifestyle, I never had any of that and holidayed in the uk.

[webbo3]

From 1:15

https://fb.watch/nwTr4kcKwd/

[naomi24]

//Yes, most of us are being critical, but they've achieved their aim.//

 

If their aim is to antagonise and create opposition to their cause then yes, they've certainly achieved it.

[webbo3]

Same thing but different source.

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[Khandro]

//Never mind, one day soon there'll be plenty more sand for them.//

 

Actually, the world is running low on sand - so much has already been used up in concrete, and desert sand isn't suitable for that purpose.