Why Do Journos Keep Asking About The Proportion Of Israels Response?

[ToraToraTora]

FGS Kay Burley et al, what is the response to burning/beheading 50 your boys? 7000 rockets targetting civilians? Indescriminate massace of men women and children in a festival, a kibbutz? I'll tell you there is no proportion of response, hamas must be wiped out. We must back Israel as we did Ukraine. Un effing believable idiotic questions from Journalists.

[naomi24]

What about the attacks on Israel, untitled?  What about the hostages and the brutal slaughtering in cold blood of Israelis?   I've just read an account of a father whose 8 year old daughter has been murdered by these barbarians.  He says he would rather that than her be taken hostage by Hamas.  You need to think about the sort of people you're supporting.  You wouldn't want to encounter that mentality.  You really wouldn't.

[Untitled]

Those attacks are also evil atrocities naomi... among the worst things human beings are capable of. 
 

how do these horrifying airstrikes make israel any safer? 
 

is it acceptable for the IDF to bomb children to death in "self defence"?

[naomi24]

That really is the most ridiculous question.  What country at war can possibly remove the vulnerable before it retaliates to attack?    Idealism doesn't work in real life, untitled.

[Untitled]

how are these horrific airstrikes making israel any safer?

[Atheist]

It's all too emotional for any weight to be given to rational assessment. Israel knows what makes sense, but they can't ignore the huge weight of Israeli public's desire for revenge. Netan.... doesn't give a ship about humans, but he knows how to look after himself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[naomi24]

Untitled, the air strikes in themselves are not intended to make Israel safer.  The ultimate result of retaliating against the aggressor hopefully will.  Do you really expect Israel not to retaliate?

[Untitled]

"the air strikes in themselves are not intended to make Israel safer.  "

then what are they intended to do? they obviously do not work as a deterrent... they do nothing to hamas. I think their purpose is purely vengeful. 
 

i do not consider the deliberate killing of civilians an acceptable means of retaliation no. if the govt of israel truly thinks that is its only means of "self preservation" then it strikes me that doing nothing would leave far fewer innocent people dead.

[naomi24]

But you haven't condemned the killing of civilians by the aggressor.  Strange.

[ToraToraTora]

With this level of support for terrorist attrocities untitled is doing a good impression of agent cob, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[ToraToraTora]

"i do not consider the deliberate killing of civilians an acceptable means of retaliation no." - Israel are not targetting civilians, unlike your terrorist buddies. I know you lefties are weird but I never thought you stoop this low.

[Untitled]

yes i have naomi... i have done so on this very thread and i am pleased to do so again: hamas are an evil terrorist organisation who have committed heinous acts of wanton slaughter that are never justifiable

if you are comfortable with israel committing atrocities against civilians then you have no basis at all for condemning what hamas does... they are morally equivalent.

[ToraToraTora]

OK untitled, I'll play,  how do you think Israel should respond to the Hamas attrocities?

[Atheist]

USA after seven-eleven bowed to the god of public opinion and the OT and went at it hell for leather.

Where did it get them and us? Unfortunately, our enemies do not lie down and snivel and disappear forever when they are hammered, they do what we did in WW2 - we will fight them on the beaches..... -  and what the Irish have done....- and what the Jews have done...- and the Chinese and Mau-mau and Vietnamese and anyone else you can think of.

Can anyone name a single gang who simply disappeared when they were smited by the powerful?

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "if you are comfortable with israel committing atrocities against civilians then you have no basis at all for condemning what hamas does... they are morally equivalent." - I cannot comprehend how anyone can compare Hamas attrocities with collateral damage.

[Untitled]

cutting off food and water to gaza does deliberately target civilians toratoratora... so does launching airstrikes into heavily crowded areas where the population is not permitted to leave...

i know they claim to be targeting "terrorist infrastructure" but it is frankly a figleaf... they know full well what will happen to civilians at the other end and don't care any more than hamas do

[Untitled]

"Collateral damage" is a euphemism for an evil thing toratoratira... i suggest you take a good look at what "collateral damage" actually looks like and tell me it's any better than what hamas does

[Atheist]

TTT. Like me, there's a lot you cannot comprehend.

[douglas9401]

Bringing things down to a local level, Tora, if you had been harrassing my wife for years and it eventually tipped over into actual violence would I be completely justified in coming round to your place, giving you the kicking of your life before starting on your entire family, beginning with the smallest and knocking as many bells as I could manage with a baseball bat out of each and every one of them?

[ToraToraTora]

Yes you would.

[Untitled]

"how do you think Israel should respond to the Hamas attrocities?"

- end the blockade and allow gazans to move elsewhere in the palestinian authority (or to neighbouring Arab countries such as Jordan)

- aid Fatah and enable them to challenge and usurp hamas inside gaza.