The Israeli / Palestinian Conflict In Ten Minutes

[sp1814]

I was hoping someone would put out an explainer.

Very useful for those who want an understanding of how we got to where we are today.

[Untitled]

" Israel is doing Palestinians a favour."

by destroying their homes? 
their only power station? 
by blockading food and water? 
 

hamas have stockpiles and iranian support... they'll be fine... it is palestinians who will suffer from this. the israeli government is using starvation as a weapon which is a war crime.
 

when innocent people are butchered, abducted, raped... i do not see how slaughtering more is a good way to defend yourself. 

[ynnafymmi]

Hamas started this war,they have to be held responsible for their crimes,Untitled.

[Untitled]

there is a big difference between hamas and gazans... just as there is a big difference between israelis and the government which acts in their name 

[retrocop]

Just reported aircraft approaching North Israel. Believed to be Hamas drones. I suppose our supporters of terrorists expect Israelis to climb on their rooftops and wave at them as they come in indiscriminately with their deadly payload. The only way Israel can defend themselves is cut off the snakes head.

[Untitled]

when someone does something awful do you hold them accountable or do you indiscriminately kill all the people around them, including children? 

 

the former is just... the latter is exactly the same logic used by hamas to commit atrocities. collective punishment. 

[ynnafymmi]

Aye,Hamas has the guns and the torture chambers,Untitled,the ordinary Gazaians dont.Big difference.

[Untitled]

every "side" of this war is a terrorist organisations retrocop... hamas and the israeli government both... the tragedy is the millions caught between them and placed in harm's way

[naomi24]

Untitled, what do you want Israel to do?

[retrocop]

I wonder if our Hamas sympathisers have asked themselves why after all these years that Israelis have pretty much all have safe rooms/ shelters in their premises and public shelters in the towns where as the Palestinians do not appear to be allowed to protect themselves from harm

[Untitled]

end the blockade 

[naomi24]

And that would cure the problem?

[Untitled]

definitely not. but it would stop it getting worse. 

[naomi24]

Really?  Why?  If Israel ends the blockade will Hamas stop?

[Untitled]

Hamas will not stop until iran stops funding them... but ending the blockade will allow gazans to move out from hamas oppression and settle elsewhere... a situation which would be a significant improvement for the vast majority of people. if gazans are able to leave freely then hamas also has fewer civilians to hide behind

the blockade also violates the geneva convention so that alone should be reason enough to end it. 

[naomi24]

Where are they going to go, untitled?  Israel is under attack.  

[Untitled]

Where is who going to go? 
 

The Israeli government has its share of responsibility in bringing about this situation I'm afraid 

[ichkeria]

The US has now sent three carrier battle groups to the ME. That's a huge fighting force.

As Hezbollah launches attacks from Lebanon on N Israel 

[naomi24]

Ubtitled, the people you want to move out 'from Hamas oppression'.  Where are they going to go?  

[Countrylover]

17.12  I'm totally with Untitled on this. 

[Untitled]

there are a huge number of palestinians who live in Israel itself naomi (even excluding the palestinian territories)... then there's the west bank, jordan, lebanon... i should think most gazans have connections in at least one of those areas... and they'd be much better off given the right to move... sounds much better than killing them to me