I Think I'll Hold Off On Getting A Lecky Jam Jar........

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/luton-airport-car-park-fire-due-to-vehicle-fault-as-man-arrested-12990789

I doubt this guy's insurance will cover all the damage caused, so he'll be sued personally.

[mushroom25]

// I doubt this guy's insurance will cover all the damage caused //

....is it likely to be bigger than this claim?

https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/milliontoone-accident-could-leave-ps50m-claim-6335090.html

[Fibonacci]

According to BBC report.

"The fire is thought to have started in a diesel car before spreading rapidly"

 

[bednobs]

what has it got to do with electric cars - the fire started in a diesel car?

 

[ToraToraTora]

Sorry I assumed it was a lecky car, they tend to spontainiously combust.

[THECORBYLOON]

He'll be reading between the lines again...

[ToraToraTora]

11:17, yes, they had no limit on their 3rd Party liability. I suspect that's the kind of thing that made the ICs put a limit on it.

[barry1010]

Remember this? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/bmw-recalling-917000-us-vehicles-over-engine-fire-concerns-2022-03-09/

[Hymie]

Contrary to what some people think, according to a Swedish study (where the uptake of EVs is higher than most other countries), petrol/diesel cars are 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs.

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

[ubasses]

Earlier reports said it was a Land Rover, there have been recalls on some models as they are at risk of catching fire.  If he didn't didn't take any action he could possibly be guilty through negligence

[youngmafbog]

The problem is with that stat Hymie is that ICE cars include really old ones and ones that are simply not maintained.  I somehow doubt that current EV's are poorly maintained goiven the cost.

Personsally I would asy that at the moment there is not enough data one way or another.

[Hymie]

Apparently most insurers (of the destroyed vehicles) have said that they will payout to those who have had their car destroyed in the fire – without it affecting their NCD.  There may then be a group litigation by the insurance companies (who lost out) against the insurer of the vehicle that caught fire (unless some agreement is reached re compensation).

As explained by the Blackbeltbarrister in the video link below:-

[barry1010]

Should the car park owners bear responsibility for failure to install measures such as sprinklers?

[ToraToraTora]

No barry. Have you got them in your house?

[Zacs-Master]

Oh dear, Tora, you ballsed up here. PMSL. 😂

[barry1010]

My house isn't full of other peoples property

[Gromit]

// The fire department identified the car which started the blaze. There’s video of it. It was a diesel Range Rover, one of the Land Rover group of cars. In fact, a front view video of the car shows its license plate, and UK’s Ministry of Transport makes it clear that the car was a 2014 diesel Range Rover Sport, license plate E10EFL. Used car site Car Check confirms this, showing it has tested emissions of 194 g/km, which puts it at the top end of the emissions range for non-hybrid diesel light vehicles. Not only is there no evidence that it was hybrid, there is strong evidence it wasn’t hybrid. //
 

Damn facts spoiling an anti EV rant 😂

[Old_Geezer]

ICE cars may on rare occassions catch fire, but they ain't nigh impossible to put out, nor do they burn as fiercely. Generally, in a properly designed car park, the blaze would be localised and the fire brigade able to control the situation, if the sprinklers hadn't already done so.

[Canary42]

Sprinklers unlikely to be very effective once diesel/petrol escapes get going - in fact they're like to spread it. A foam system is required.

Many years ago (late-Sixties) I had a Mini with a dodgy ignition lock and it was possible to (unintentionally) pull the key out without it switching off first - and one day I returned to the 2-storey Company car park after work to find the electric petrol pump had pumped my tank dry via carburretor overspill.  I was lucky nobody unwittingly lit it before the RAC towed it away.

Ironic considering this thread, it was an Insurance Company that I worked for at the time.

[Buenchico]

The owners of the other vehicles involved (or their insurers) would only have a valid claim against the driver of the car which caught fire (or his insurer) if they were able to show that he'd been negligent in some way:
https://www.findlaw.com/injury/accident-injury-law/proving-fault-what-is-negligence.html

As there would seem to be absolutely nothing to suggest that there was any such negligence on his part, TTT's suggestion that he could be sued is clearly a preposterous one.

[Ellipsis]

I like Black Belt Barrister, and I am not a lawyer myself, but one thing was glossed over ...

He said that the car park was not at fault. But the car park collapsed because one car caught fire. Is that reasonable? 

That car park was right next to the airport itself, and the Luton DART shuttle. It was amazing and lucky that serious injuries took place. It seems that the car park should have some culpability.