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TORATORATORA, "Sandy says the attrocities were a lie at 19:03 he says it was "propaganda"
Did he say, "attrocities were a lie" or did he say,
"There are false claims that babies were deliberately beheaded.
It's propaganda and many believe what they want to believe."
His post at 18:29 was,
"ttt,
You know that the story about decapitated babies is a lie. Repeating a lie won't make it true."
He was commenting about a specific claim you have made several times and in spite of being asked multiple times to provide verified confirmation of that claim, you have failed to do so.
Are you able to provide verification of that claim?
ellipsis: " I don't have a problem with a state defending itself against a terrorist aggressor, but I do have a problem with a state taking actions that result in children and babies being killed." - there is always collateral damage in war, civvies are not the target. That's the difference between the sides here.
> there is always collateral damage in war
There are always choices, and some are worse than others and will kill more innocent people. Some choices are actually war crimes themselves, no better than the terrorists ...
I mean, really, where will this end? If half of Gaza is killed in "collateral damage", that's not an end, because what will the remaining half be thinking and doing ...
I believe this is the interview to which you refer
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//I saw the very worst, and the very best, of humanity in Israel this week. I saw a mother and her two daughters, her only children, buried together in a field after they were murdered by Palestinian terrorists in their home at Kibbutz Be’eri. The husband, the father, could not say memorial prayers because he is still missing. His brother is being held hostage, somewhere in the tunnels Hamas has dug for itself rather than building anything for the Palestinian people. I saw refrigerated trucks full of dead and decaying bodies, hundreds of corpses, including those of children, murdered for no reason other than the fact that they were Israeli, or Jewish. I saw the mist float out of the containers and breathed the scent of death. I saw footage of the attack, saw teenage girls begging in vain for their lives; saw a terrorist toss a grenade into a bomb shelter to kill a father in front of his two boys; saw the boys, one now blind, wail in terror. I saw the bullet holes in the kindergarten; saw the “safe room” door, where the children hid, twisted off its hinges by an explosion. I saw the holiday decorations, picked up the bullet casings still on the ground. I saw the footage of drivers being murdered in their cars; I heard firsthand accounts of the naked bodies of women, found on the roadways after they had been raped. Who would have thought such things were possible? Who would dare to excuse them?I also saw volunteers braving rocket fire to bring meals to people too old or too disabled to leave their bomb shelters. I met fathers who said goodbye to their wives and children and raced toward the front to join the fight. I met a mother who learned, after several days, that her daughter had been murdered at the Supernova music festival, and who still kept coming back to the center for the families of hostages and missing people, so she could comfort them//
Joel B. Pollak.
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//Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has said that nations in Europe were wrong to take in many people who are now supporting Hamas’ actions against Israel. Unless the militant group is punished for its hostage-taking, Europeans risk being targeted similarly, he warned.
In an interview published on Wednesday, Mathias Dopfner, the CEO of German media group Axel Springer, asked the veteran statesman about “Arabs celebrating” in the streets of Berlin after Hamas’ incursion into southern Israel last week. Kissinger, a Jewish survivor of the Holocaust, said he found such gestures of support for criminal acts “painful.”//
//Hamas’ attack against Israel being celebrated on the streets of Berlin indicates that Germany has let too many foreigners into the country, according to former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. “It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different culture and religion and concepts, because it creates a pressure group inside each country that does that,” the 100-year-old ex-top American diplomat said in an interview with Axel Springer CEO Mathias Döpfner for Germany’s Welt TV.//
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