An Essay On Isael And Gaza. What Do You Make Of It?

[Atheist]

https://medium.com/@isaac_1884/the-attacks-on-israel-and-the-response-15ed50e63da6

 

[Untitled]

to put it bluntly - it is possible to defeat hamas without imitating their atrocities. 

[naomi24]

Lottie, no, it won't cure the problem except for this time because Islam will never stop.  Further, unlike Hamas and associates it is not Israel's declared intention to wipe any nation off the face off the earth.  Frankly if your principles were mine I'd readjust them.  All I can say is be careful what you wish for.  Those people would separate your head from your shoulders without a second thought.

[royfromaus]

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the conflation of support for palestine with support for hamas is a cynical and invalid ploy..

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All those lining the street and spitting on dead bodies were Hamas I take it?

[royfromaus]

Read that wrong (Distracted watching and laughing at Man u hopefully lose to Bournemouth)

Poor supporters here when they are losing.

[ynnafymmi]

@15.41.But surely the civilised world managed to defeat those other anti-semitic terrorists(the Nazis)back in 1945,Naomi.Surely we can now similarly defeat the new anti-semitic terrorists and Nazis(Hamas)nowadays?

[Countrylover]

Naomi, I wasn't  born yesterday.   No  need to treat me like a  child.  I am quite worldly wise actually  You don't know what I wish for and I am not adjusting my principles or  morals. I was independent and travelling from my teens.   Seriously, who are  'Those people' you refer to?  

[Khandro]

Countrylover //Let's face it Israel wants to wipe out islamics/Muslims off the face of the earth, ie  much like Hitler wanted to do with the Jews,ie genocide.  //

An outrageous and unfounded thing to say.

[sandyRoe]

They'd like to wipe them off the land that they're stealing.

 

[naomi24]

16.14.  it is indeed, khandro.

[ynnafymmi]

You are Irish arent you sandy,(the Irish and the IRA terrorists were pro-Hitler in the 1940s),would you be pro-Nazi terrorism in the 1940s as the same as you are pro-Hamas terrorism in the 2020s?

[sandyRoe]

Are Hamas terrorists?  They're freedom fighters in my opinion.

[Khandro]

Untitled //the conflation of support for palestine with support for hamas is a cynical and invalid ploy...//

Please read my link at 12:39.

The Israel Defence Forces (& I) would like to see Hamas removed with the minimun casualties, but it isn't possible to remove them without doing so because they have embedded, and been allowed by the civilian population to be embedded, in their schools, hospitals & residential sites.

There is an alternative, which could stop this immediately, something I have not heard suggested by anyone, and what has been common throughout the history of warfare...... surrender. 

[ynnafymmi]

@16.30.So i presume you think that the Nazis were also freedom fighters Sandy?

[Untitled]

"The Israel Defence Forces (& I) would like to see Hamas removed with the minimun casualties,"

sadly it has become very obvious that this simply isn't true. the minister of agriculture described israel's goal as "nakba 2023". it could not be clearer.

[Khandro]

Untitled: Where was your condemnation of Russia after Bucha or Mariupol and subsequent ongoing murders? Could it be that those aggressors weren't Jewish ?

Where was your condemnation of Hamas after their atrocities of Nov. 7th ? Could it be you are just a teensy-weensy bit anti-Semitic?

  

[Togo]

Ahh essays. I am glad that there are some willing to read them from whatever source. They sometomes have insights we hadn't considered or information that we were unaware of. I have an essay for you. Not mine and not from a source that you would usually seek. It is however an essay that is of interest to all who like to read essays. It is perhaps a little thought provoking, though the thoughtless need none. It compares Hamas with the nazis and reflects that Hitler did his best to hide his evil doings though hamas brazenly films and broadcasts their own atrocities. It is not a 15 minute read for the over emotional. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12848257/Why-Hamas-worse-Nazis-thought-provoking-essay-historian-ANDREW-ROBERTS.html

[Untitled]

hi khandro 

i am pleased that you observe the valid parallel between the actions of israel and the massacres committed by hamas and russia. i have condemned hamas several times... i can't actually remember if i wrote anything on answerbank when the bucha massacre happened but bear in mind that not saying something on theanswerbank is not the same as not saying anything at all! Both of those things were unconscionable massacres carried out by groups intent on genocide... that doesn't give israel carte blanche to do the same 

re: anti-semitism... i notice that this term is nearly always used to describe critics of israel... you will notice that i have carefully worded my posts to criticise the present israeli government and the IDF as an institution for carrying out crimes against humanity... i have also read the smotrich plan which is a blueprint for ethnic cleansing... i haven't said anything at all about jews as people and nor would i. if i am anti semite i think i'm a pretty rubbish one.