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Summary Executions Reported In Gaza

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Untitled | 11:31 Sat 23rd Dec 2023 | News
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https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unlawful-killings-in-gaza-city-ohchr-press-release/
 

the UN has received reports that the IDF shot 11 unarmed palestinian civilians in front of their familiies, who were then forced into a room and grenades thrown in. 
 

the UN has called for the israeli government to establish an independent and thorough investigation into this incident.
 

an urgent and important request surely?

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as i have said before the israeli government also carries a degree of responsibility for supporting hamas for so long. if you facilitate terrorists then you get terror. 

Hamas knew what would happen they did it anyway, they are 100% at fault. If you knew that if you threw a pebble at next doors green house they'd flatten your house and you still did it, who'd fault would that be?

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"so person b must just allow what has hapenned with no response? I think even you would retaliate in such a situation."
 

probably. the point is i would not be entitled to just kill or harm anyone i wanted purely because something awful had been done to me.

whose!

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"who'd fault would that be?"
 

both. if your next door neighbour will destroy your house and everyone in it the moment someone throws a pebble then your neighbour is a psycho. 

ok but if you knew that why would you throw the pebble?

Look how a billionaire Israeli whose daughter was murdered on October 7th thinks about it ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67679634

Quite an incredible article.

"Everything she touched was with a smile. She never did anything wrong to anyone," he says, choking back tears. "She just loved doing good things. And they [Hamas] just murdered her for no reason."

Despite the brutal killing of his youngest daughter, Eyal Waldman still believes that the Palestinians should have a state - and soon.

"We need to change leadership on both sides. And then I hope in two to four years we'll be able to do peace and build two states for the two people and be able to live together next to each other," he says.

But before that, he wants something else.

"Anyone that was responsible, anyone that was associated with what happened on 7 October 2023, will be eliminated. And we will take care of that," he says firmly.

Meanwhile over in Ukraine 10,000 innocent civilians killed, 560 of them children and 18,500 injured - where's the outcry  on AB?

 Could it be that the Russians, - who have no valid reason for the attacks - aren't Jewish, and the Jews have an extremely valid reason - their very existence- are excoriated ?

What did Hamas expect would happen after their October 7th outrage?

Think I've said this before but everything is black and white in TTT land.

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russia aren't supported by our government or that of the USA khandro... i also consider russia's war of conquest and genocide in ukraine to be morally reprehensible... i think israel's behaviour in gaza has more in common with it than we like to pretend. 

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as to what hamas expected to happen - they expected this. israel is giving them exactly what they want. 

Khandro; It's not all about Jews. Criticising the Israeli govt is not 'anti-semitism'. But I suspect you know that in your heart.

A humanitarian would have plenty to say on Sudan, Syria, Afghans getting kicked out of Pakistan, Uyghur having just about everything done to them in China, etc.

 

Think about it...are you a humanitarian or antisemitic?

KHANDRO, "Meanwhile over in Ukraine 10,000 innocent civilians killed, 560 of them children and 18,500 injured - where's the outcry  on AB?"

 

Those figures are terrible but taking into account the duration so far of each war and the populations of Ukraine and Gaza, how do the respective civilian deaths and casualties compare?

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why do you assume that if i don't say anything on answerbank about those things then that means i am silent on them? 
 

as usual people simply insist unthinkingly that critics of israel's government are anti semitic. the term at this point has been stripped of all meaning.

//anti semitic. the term at this point has been stripped of all meaning.//

 

No it hasn't.  It means what it means.  Your opinion on events don't change it.

*doesn't* change it.

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very well. anti-semitic does not mean "critical of israel's government". 

That's better.

that's better ..... you mean they have STOPPED shooting innocent civlians

oh  Oh ! sozza we were talking about form (=words) and not function (= what they were doing)

thank god for that ! On AB on Xmas eve, we can rely on at least SOME threads being over-modded

not saying which of course

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