India Willoughby’s Jk Rowling Complaint Did Not Meet Criminal Threshold, Police Say

[naomi24]

//Earlier this week, Willoughby, a trans woman and broadcaster, reported the Harry Potter author to the police for calling her a man.  In an interview with Byline TV, Willoughby, 58, said of the posts: “JK Rowling has definitely committed a crime.//

 

J K Rowling said //“No law compels anyone to pretend to believe that India is a woman.

“Aware as I am that it’s an offence to lie to law enforcement, I’ll simply have to explain to the police that, in my view, India is a classic example of the male narcissist who lives in a state of perpetual rage that he can’t compel women to take him at his own valuation.”//

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-india-willoughby-police-trans-b2509754.html

 

Yet again J K Rowling champions women.  Good for her.  Common sense reigns.

[mushroom25]

// India Willoughby is a man, legally.... //

if India Willoughby holds a Gender Recognition Certificate (and recent reports in the MSM suggest that to be the case), then India Willoughby is legally female.

[andres]

^^^[email protected] didn't mean all society ,just here on AB.

[jourdain2]

I also know that people can be born with the wrong body - my very dear god-daugher/godson - but that they are incredibly rare.  These people need help and understanding to fit into society.

It is not a reason to try to alter the understanding and needs of the rest of the population to suit the trans person.

 

 

[lankeela]

No idea who he/she/it is but in an interview I've just seen said "I am legally a woman, been through all I need to do to be a woman, my birth certificate says I am a woman" - how can that be if she was actually born a man but opted to change?  Passport I can understand but birth certificate surely has to reflect what gender he was at birth.

 

[brainiac]

Maybe ClareTGOld will be along to tell us how it all works legally.  Have her degree citations been changed, for instance?

[mushroom25]

// "....my birth certificate says I am a woman" - how can that be...?  //

if the individual has a GRC in their "acquired" gender, they have a right to an amended birth certificate.

[Auntypoll]

''India Willoughby has been trying to get JKR to engage with him, on some level, for years - he chose the name Joanne before he settled on using India; he has done photoshoots wearing clothes very similar to those worn by JKR; he has invited her out for meals, to go clothes-shopping, to have 'girly-evenings' with him. That she has ignored him, despite huge provocation and much name-calling is driving him (more) insane.''

[Auntypoll]

Sorry forgot to comment . The point is JKR has not ignored them! She is stirring India's obvious obsession with her instead of remaining silent and rising above it. She also has put herself forward as a spokesperson for women's rights, good for her but she could do this without referring personally to one transphobic individual.

[jackthehat]

India Willoughby does not hold a GRC as has been quoted as saying that he wouldn't apply for one.

[jackthehat]

AuntPoll - You obviously haven't been following this on X.

If you had, you would see that JKR has been trying her hardest to avoid India Willoughby, even though she would now have sufficient evidence to sue him herself.

If she makes any rare reference to transgenders, as a group, Willoughby jumps up with. "She means meeeeeee!"

She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.

[Old_Geezer]

Legal certificates supporting falsehoods do not change reality in any way; it just sets the legal position.

 

(King Cnut should've proclaimed a law that the tide will turn back when commanded. Then he'd not have got his feet wet.)

[andy-hughes]

There's an interesting lesson to be learned here about seeking attention.

The advent of social media has meant that the number of total nobodies who not only think that their opinion on anything is vital, but that they need a massive amount of attention from strangers while they express it - the cyber equivalent of shouting into a bucket.

There are millions of people doing this, it's the price we pay for the society our technological advances have crerated - millions of utter idiots parading their rapmant life-controlling insecurity to a world that is utterly indifferent to their nonsense.

India Willougby is a text book example.

On the other hand, you have a vastly talented author who entirely by dint of her own skill and endevour has ammassed a fortune bigger than the Royal Family, but is content to live life largely out of the limelight, not seeking any attention, because she already has more than enough.

JK Rowling is a text book example.

Now, when the two of these come up against each other, which one would logic and common sense would say she is defending her views and her reputation, and would wish for this sort of nonsensical claptrap would go away and leave her in peace?

And which one would you say is feverishly stoking the fires in order to boost her 'profile' and get noticed, thanks to her adpotion of a born-for-social-media cause, transgenderism?

I'm not saying that Ms Willougby is not transgender. I myself am short-sighted, but I don;t feel the need to tell the world about it, and then get miffed when I get a hostile reaction.

The lesson is this - By all means seek attention, if that's what gets you through the night.

Just don't expect as your right, the kind of attention you want, and then stamp your feet and scream when it isn't, and it's come back to bite you on the bottom.

[Auntypoll]

JKF doesn't need to defend her reputation nor join in a slanging match on X with a publicity seeking narcissist. If she wants to share her concerns about transgender issues then it would be better to air them as a general issue rather than direct them to someone who may have mental health issues. She could have handled this in a more gracious manner which would not have alienated her from a whole community. I'm sure a large proportion of the transgender community just want to get on with their lives and are embarrassed at the controversy stirred up by both India and JKR.

[andy-hughes]

Auntypoll - // She could have handled this in a more gracious manner which would not have alienated her from a whole community. //

How much do you think Ms Rowking will care about being 'alienated' from a bunch of attention-seeking idiots?

As you quite rightly point out, the majority of the trans community are getting on with their lives.

It would be a shame for any of them to get lumped in with the narcissistic numpties who parade their differences as though they are something they have personally created, and not an accident of birth, which is what they actually are.

[naomi24]

J K Rowling hasn't stirred controversy.  She's speaking the truth - and getting death threats for it.  I guess maintaining graciousness is the least of your worries when that sort of thing happens.

[mushroom25]

// J K Rowling hasn't stirred controversy //

oh I don't know - here's what she tweeted (or is that X-ed?) today about mother's day......

Happy Birthing Parent Day to all whose large gametes were fertilised resulting in small humans whose sex was assigned by doctors making mostly lucky guesses

naturally her detractors have flown in to a rabid frothing rage on reading that......

[andres]

^^No wonder she keeps getting involved in spats. 

[andy-hughes]

Maybe she just likes winding up idiots who regard being wound up as a lifestyle choice.

[Auntypoll]

Mushroom exactly what I meant it's like what came first the crass JKR remarks or the death threats? Non of it is good but both are playing the audience nowadays. I'm sure if one shut up the other would eventually shut up too but each seems to want the last word. 

[Atheist]

I don't understand why people who have no connection or experience of certain human conditions feel it necessary to pontificate and condemn individuals about their lives.

Why do you do it?