It Just Ain't Going Away Is It.......?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-headache-for-labour-as-questions-grow-over-angela-rayners-tax-affairs-13109859

 

[Peter Pedant]

is your judgement of dishonesty based only on the amount?

there is no de minimis rule for dishonesty (MPs skipping bus  fares etc in the good old days)

[ToraToraTora]

good to see the mods are on the button to defend their charges. Great, well done!

[Ellipsis]

OK ... what is the evidence that Rayner has evaded tax? According to the Mail (hardly unbiased) ...

 it has seen dozens of online postings made by the MP that show that during 2010-2015 she posted about her children and cats at her husband's address - which was a house a mile away from hers - including a post captioned "just got back from work".

Please don't tell me that's it ...

[fripfrip]

No problem for angela she will just get the durham police to investigate and hey presto she's innocent.

[Peter Pedant]

really must we put up with a a sub moron IQ in our deliberations?

yes if he knows the  law on this subject

you  dont have to read what I write if it er enrages you - oh and the taxman has agreed that he is not under a duty to recover every last penny of tax owed ( which kinda is a de minimis rule but does not  involve dishonesty).

oh and the taxman is allowed to punt " show me why you dont owe £5m in tax" - there was a case where someone coughed  up £5m under this and got a binding agreement that the investigation wd go no further. That is that he had discharged the tax man's claim and it was closed

[Peter Pedant]

Ay did not complain about  the removed posts. i wd prefer if they remained, as adding colour to an otherwise bland tax thread.

the durham police to investigate and hey presto she's innocent.

yeah I said to a neighbour ( god I live in a rough area) about an ignored home invasion ( no video no crime) that he had omitted the  magic words: "I think I misgendered my assailant". My god that wd have got the police running !

[10ClarionSt]

Keep this up TTT and when Labour get in, you'll be dragged through the streets by the Bolsheviks. 

[Peter Pedant]

ncluding a post captioned "just got back from work".

er excuse me - that has no bearing evidentially on whether 54 The sidings is her registered home address. 

[ToraToraTora]

20:56 Normally have to pay good money for that...

[Peter Pedant]

TTT as a kulak ? I really am not sure about that

[Deskdiary]

The amount of tax liability potentially evaded is only about £1,500, but the amount is irrelevant, it doesn't matter whether its £1,500 of £1,500,000, as the point is IF she has evaded tax, that's a crime.

 

She has said she took independent advice at the time and has done nothing wrong, but she is refusing to disclose the advice. Why is that? If I was being accused of something and had documentary evidence corroborating I had done nothing wrong, I'd whip out that evidence at the very first opportunity, so I find it very curious why she hasn't. The fact that she is refusing to produce this evidence or disclose her tax returns*  suggests to me she has something to hide.

 

I must admit I'm enjoying every minute of this. Rayner is always screeching for the resignation of Tories, so its nice that she's now squirming.

 

*I don't think anybody should ever be compelled to disclose their tax returns, but I make an exception with Rayner for no other reason than in the past she's screeched for other people to disclose theirs.

[douglas9401]

Duck houses and wallpaper as well as pots and kettles.

[Deskdiary]

Also, does she really expect the public to swallow that she lived apart from her husband AND her kids for 5 years in a house that was just 1 mile away?

[youngmafbog]

As I said a couple of weeks back, I really dont understand why she didnt just pay it or provide the tax advice given.

The amount is irrelevant, although it is amusing to see the wriggling and whataboutery from the left on here, the underlying problem is she screeches for Tory's to resign or demands sight of their tax returns.

Utter hypocrite, but then she is a politician(sort of).

[youngmafbog]

I guess TTT has gone as musnt upset the left on here must we.

[New Judge]

I really don't understand the confusion. Profits made from the sale of one's main home is exempt from Capital Gains Tax. An individual or a married couple can only have one main home for this purpose.

Ms Rayner bought her house in 2007. She married in 2010. The sale of the house in question took place in 2015. Her argument must therefore be that, following her marriage  between 2010 and 2015 her house must have been her main residence (and so by default that of her husand as well as they could not enjoy a main residence each).

Married couples have the option of making a formal declaration of their main residence but as far as I know Ms Rayner and her husband did not do that. So, if evasion is suapected, it would be for HMRC to examine the evidence concerning her claim that her house was their main residence. It should no be too hard to determine the strength of that claim.

[davebro3]

My confusion arises as to whether it has to have been the main residence throughout the ownership or only part of the period of ownership.