9/11 Conspiracy

[Ward-Minter]

Now I know this has been spoken of many times on here and I totally agree that such theories are absolute nonsense. However has anybody a view on this footage. Selective filming from a Drama Student or thr truth??? here

[Philtaz]

Nothing conspiratorial about it. Terrorists fly aircraft into buildings while the world watches, people jump to their deaths from buildings, 2 best known world landmarks subsequently collapse to the ground.

What is there to dispute?

[Ward-Minter]

have you watched the link?

[don1]

You are right Phil the towers were destroyed by muslim terrorists these ludicrous conspiracy theories should be put in the same bin as the biggest silly story of all time that Lee Harvey Oswald shot J.F.K.

[Gevs1966]

I don't mean to hijack your thread W-M but Don1, who shot Kennedy then. As far as I am aware and I have researched the subject quite heavily Oswald did it. All the other conspiracies rely on vague coincidences, dramatisation of events and trying to link seperate events to each other.

[don1]

gevs, I have researched this for about 40 years and my conclusion is that if I had to pick between Oswald and Oprah Winfrey then I would hang the bitch today

[Ward-Minter]

Why are you you going on about the twin towers. The question is on my thread which quite clearly is the Pentagon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

yes I saw the aeroplanes fly into the towers. Please pass comment on my thread not on those towers!!!!!!!1

RFQ

[jump79]

The link is about the pentagon strike, but were there any plane parts found at the world trade centre scene?

[noxlumos]

That's very interesting Ward-Minter. I'll stick my neck out and say that I'm prepared to keep an open mind about it even though apparently to do so makes one stupid and a conspiracy theorist.

I'm not so naieve as to think that something as omnipotently powerful (and corrupt) as the US Govt couldn't arrange anything they jolly well liked, although quite what that was I have no idea in this instance.

Has anyone else actually watched the link, because this is nothing to do with the Twin Towers strike it's the Pentagon strike that's being addressed?

[undercovers]

it was a nice looking film - but i'm not really convinced by what it suggests... i'm no expert and neither are those interviewed but i can imagine it possible that the plane was totally destroyed in the crash so that to an untrained eye it looked like there was no evidence of a plain there, and people saying "it sounded like a missile" - well do they have any point of reference to decide that I've never heard a missile or a plane crash so wouldn't be able to judge (maybe they have but i seriously doubt it). So the only thing that is a bit iffy in my mind is the lack of footage released - but in a way why would they want to release it, not a nice thing for the american people to see and the tower impacts themselves are quite gruesome enough...

[Ward-Minter]

I think not noxy man. Perhaps my little underlined "here" can not been seen clear enough.

[PhilBy]

The Pentagon strike .......... This is the one where a 757 Jumbo jet full of passengers was totally incenerated, apparently not a pin head of evidence survived the inferno all execpt the flight recorder box!?

[jules1968]

i'm just a bit dumb but what is it suggesting happened instead, by whom and why????

[Ward-Minter]

jules the theory is (what I certainly do not agree with) that President Bush set the whole 9/11 thing up killing thousands so the war on terror in the Middle east would seem more justified. Therefore, the footage shows it was a missile possibly launched from an american USAF base or something.

I imagine selective filming from a Drama student, but I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Drusilla1S]

If a large passenger aircraft travelled at a dangerously low altitude through London and crashed into Buckingham Palace, you might expect a few people to see it. How come no one ever talks about seeing the passenger plane that hit the Pentagon?

I'm not a great lover of conspiracy theories, but I would suggest a much smaller plane than identified officially crashed into the Pentagon, but that begs the questions, where did the airliner get to and where did a smaller plane come from?

If there is a cover up, I think it may be that the American military were forced to shoot down one or two of the airliners involved in 9/11 and that must have been a dreadfully traumatic decision for all concerned. It would also be a cover up I could understand in the short term.

[Clanad]

From: Debunking 9/11 Conspiracies:

CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Facts aside, how many people would have to be in on a conspiracy of this magnitude? Hundreds? Thousands? Do you really believe even 10 could keep it a secret? The only thing the conspiracy theorists have in common is the desire to make money off the terrible, murderous tradgedy... in my opinion...

[lightoftruth]

My personal theory is that Bin Laden had no plan in it at all.

George Bush himself co ordinated the attack. Its just too coincidental that hes been able to get away with so much due to america want for revenge of 9/11. I also think its got somrthing to do with wanting to finish what his father started i.e war in iraq.

Its far fetched but i do believe it

[Clanad]

Thanks to lightoftruth for rendering this entire argument to its basics..."it's farfetched by I do believe it"...

Sigh...

[jules1968]

Thanks for clarifying that for me Ward-Minter.I guessed that was it. Are they trying to say the same thing of the twin towers too? Every attack on 9/11 was sanctioned by George Bush??? If they are only saying this about the Pentagon attack, it would be an incredible coincidence that it happened at the same time would it not. Wow, that really is a conspiracy theory and a half! George Bush may be many things but i very much doubt he would kill that many of his own countrymen for his own needs. It is incomprehensable to me!

[CompNut]

W.M. Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen any of this film before and the whole thing as portrayed on the link, certainly seems very suspicious.
But if it was a missile, why would the U.S. want to cover up the truth?

[cooksters]

I always there was something not quite right about the pentagon crash, they never relased hardly any video footage at all and i aslo have books on 9/11 and the pentagon is hardly meantioned. I have loooked into it but never quite made up my mind. Here is another interesting link you moght want to look at www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

I also beleive that flight 93 was shot down before it crashed does anyone else think this?