War Crimes - IRAQ

[honest_joe]

Should Tony Blair be charged with war crimes over Iraq. With over 100,000 innocent Iraqis killed since the start of the invasion this surpasses any crime committed by Saddam Hussain. The Nurenburg trials set a precedent by saying Blair was only taking orders from Bush.

If he were charged would a similar fiasco take place like the Hutton affair into David Kelly and resulted in a whitewash. The masons have a lot to answer for!

[jake-the-peg]

Deliberate targeting of civillians is a war crime, I believe it's also a war crime to be wreckless in the regard for civillian safety.

There have been a number of strikes at targets like restaurants where legitimate targets were believed to be which probably would fall into the latter category.

However I think you might be hard pushed to show Tony Blair had any hand in them.

George Bush however might be a rather different story - I dont know that any senior figer from a victorious army has ever been charged with war crimes though.

As for masons - give us a break - we all know it's the Templars

[admarlow]

How many of those ''civilians'' were holding AK47's or RPG's at the time. And how many of them used to be Hussains butchers, bet you have no statistics on that.

[ummmm]

Good Point admarlow

[whiffey]

This is a very tired subject. There is not a ghost of comparison with the beasts who were convicted at Nuremberg - Streicher, Kaltenbrunner, Frank, etc.

And, who makes the arrest ?

And, who will explain it to the Kurds ?

[admarlow]

Ok they guys, I ask this question every time on one of there posts, maybe 1 day someone will answer me.
War crimes always have a motive, for instance the Nazi's wanted a pure Ayran race, now what were Blair's/Bush's motives then?

[Oneeyedvic]

oil?

[admarlow]

Nice one one eye, so how much oil have we taken from Iraq then?!??!?!?!

[suffragette]

I don't think there is any comparison between the situation in Iraq and the Nazis from WWII and to suggest otherwise is to underestimate the actions of Hitler and his henchmen.

I'm not happy with the Iraq war and there have been vicious acts and possibly atrocities committed on both sides, but such is the vile nature of warfare.

Whiffey makes a very valid point about the Kurds. They are pleased the USA and the UK attacked Saddam. There are between 25 and 30 million Kurds in the world and they still do not have their own state. Their predicament makes the Jewish situation back in 1948 seem like small potatoes IMHO. Hopefully, they will not lose the gains they have made in northern Iraq towards Kurdish self determination.

[Oneeyedvic]

Iraq has the fourth most proven reserves of oil -115 Billion barrells (first is Saudia, second is Canada, third is Iran).

The US have 21 Billion barrells or reserves.

Who said it was anything about today or tomorrow - but can you imagine Amercia being totally dependent on two of the the four aforementioned countries - far easier to have a puppet governement and control the oil that way.

[jake-the-peg]

Be careful in your comparisons between Iraq and the Nazis

I pointed out that wreckless disregard for civillian casualties in bombing restaurants because you think a legitimate target is eating there is a war crime.

It's not a crime against humanity

There's a difference

[admarlow]

so your answer is none, not one tiny cupfull, and the iraqi oil is still owned by the iraqi people and the government that they voted in, there so no its not about oil.

[EverClean]

Who put up the candidates for this election? It was arranged by the US. And it was also "arranged" by the US. Bombing somewhere where "some" of the people "may" have AK47's or RPG's is not a reason or an excuse for killing those who "may not" have had these weapons.

What difference is ther between the thousands of civillians killed in Iraq and the thousands that Milosevic stands trial for?

The fact that Milosevic admitted that he wanted to "cleanse" his land of the Kosovans? I'd rather someone tell me they'tre after me than tell me they're here to liberate me and then kill me. I want to know what my enemy intends.

[admarlow]

Ill ask again, ...motive?

[jake-the-peg]

After the invasion there was to be a significant rebuilding scheme which was to be paid for with Iraqi oil.

The contracts did seem to be for hugely inflated prices and only American (and a few UK) companies could "bid" for them.

Off course then the insurgency kicked off and it all fell apart.

I have not heard of any evidence that this scheme was formulated before the war but if want a motivation there's a biggie

[Lonnie]

George Bush should be charged in the first inst as a war criminal, as he still went in after it was proved there were no wmd in Iraq, (which was the reason they went in),and Tony Blair should be charged as an accessory after the fact.

The aim of the invasion was only changed after it had happened.

Quite simply, they both broke international law, and are still doing it.

[maxximus]

admarlow you can't be serious, where have you been man? http://newsbusters.org/node/7973 please read the whole article, after all it is just a summary, there is far more to it. but if it is to much for you, halfway down ' seven oil wars to control iraq' not one tiny cupfull,l c'mon.

[admarlow]

actually who said there wasn't any WMD's, how did all those Kurds get gassed?!?!?!?!?!