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David Cameron
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I have been a Conservative voter, all my adult life. But having just watched David Cameron being
interviewed on the BBC's morning news programme, I have come to the conclusion that this man should take the party into the next election. Does anyone else agree that he is just a clone of Blair, therefore not to be trusted?
interviewed on the BBC's morning news programme, I have come to the conclusion that this man should take the party into the next election. Does anyone else agree that he is just a clone of Blair, therefore not to be trusted?
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He has a website at http://www.webcameron.org.uk/ where you can tell him your views.
I was wondering what you were trying to say... Yes, this may be a problem for conservatives (I'm not one): they hate and deride Blair for what they see as his smarminess and fake smiles, then they're presented with a Tory leader who deliberately models himself on Blair, far more than Blair modelled himself on Thatcher. What to do? I don't know. I think a lot of people will vote Cameron on the grounds that a new Blair is better than the old Blair, but that seems a long way from true Conservative principles to me.
As for me, I dislike Blair not for the cheesy grins but for his poodleness towards Bush and the disaster of the Iraq war... and already Cameron is saying we shouldn't be such slaves of the USA and should admit errors in Iraq... so people like me have some thinking to do too. How did a Tory leader get closer to expressing my concerns than a Labour leader does?
So how about we just switch sides, oldgit?
As for me, I dislike Blair not for the cheesy grins but for his poodleness towards Bush and the disaster of the Iraq war... and already Cameron is saying we shouldn't be such slaves of the USA and should admit errors in Iraq... so people like me have some thinking to do too. How did a Tory leader get closer to expressing my concerns than a Labour leader does?
So how about we just switch sides, oldgit?
oldgit, I know it's hard to imagine abandoning the party you've always voted for. I find exactly the same. But maybe the truth is that our parties have abandoned us, and we would be simply returning the favour. We should choose either the party whose manifesto is closest to our way of thinking, or simply the candidate who seems like he/she will work hardest for his or her own constituency - regardless of party labels.
David Cameron is the worst Conservative leader since Edward Heath. He is a pathetic vacuous puerile idiot. He is so obsessed with doing silly gimmicks that he probably doesn't even know when it's only a gimmick.
e.g. the stupid new logo
e.g. the trip to Norway to watch a glacier melting
e.g. the unfounded insults agains the UKIP
e.g. the webcameron
e.g. the broken promises about the EPP
e.g. the stupid new logo
e.g. the trip to Norway to watch a glacier melting
e.g. the unfounded insults agains the UKIP
e.g. the webcameron
e.g. the broken promises about the EPP
I agree anotheroldgit, he's just a Blair-clone. Just like him, so desperate to get into power, he'll say or do anything. He's new, new labour.
Why would anyone trust a party (or man) who would so readily abandon their principles? Sorry Mr C, but I'm not going to, even though I am what you could call a 'natural Tory voter'.
What happened to parties that had beliefs and principles? And stuck to them.
Why would anyone trust a party (or man) who would so readily abandon their principles? Sorry Mr C, but I'm not going to, even though I am what you could call a 'natural Tory voter'.
What happened to parties that had beliefs and principles? And stuck to them.
ahhdundee, I know what you mean - but surely it's better to admit when you've made mistakes? Isn't that the kind of honesty the public keep asking for?
I'm not a Conservative voter (I actually give a damn about society and am not motivated entirely by self-interest) but some of the anti-Cameron views held by the Tory faithful baffle me. The party has a reputation (quite rightly) of being a boy's club for privileged people who look out only for themselves. So to see a Conservative leader actually addressing environmental issues and public services and attemtping to improve the way the party communicates is surely a step in the right direction?
Or would tory voters rather see the comical Tebbits, Hagues and Widdecombes representing their views?
Oh, I love the Conservative Party conference. What a collection of freaks.
I'm not a Conservative voter (I actually give a damn about society and am not motivated entirely by self-interest) but some of the anti-Cameron views held by the Tory faithful baffle me. The party has a reputation (quite rightly) of being a boy's club for privileged people who look out only for themselves. So to see a Conservative leader actually addressing environmental issues and public services and attemtping to improve the way the party communicates is surely a step in the right direction?
Or would tory voters rather see the comical Tebbits, Hagues and Widdecombes representing their views?
Oh, I love the Conservative Party conference. What a collection of freaks.
Living under a Labour government is rather like having your tonsils out or installing your own central heating system � it may seem a good idea at the time but you realise after it is over that it�s something you only want to endure once in a lifetime.
Unfortunately I have endured three terms of Labour government during my adult life. For sheer incompetence, greed, arrogance and ignorance of the electorate�s needs this bunch are far and away the worst. They�ve done nothing for me or anybody I know except steal more and more of our hard-earned and fritter it away on irrelevant wars, the work-shy, and the support of foreigners who hate us. (But then I�m English, pay my own way and try not to commit any crimes, so there won�t be much for me). Overarching all of this is continued association with a corrupt European ideological dream which benefits nobody except the ruling elite and �poor� new member states who must think they have opened a joint account with Bill Gates as part of their membership. (Incidentally ahhdundee, I don�t know where the 1m pensioners are whom you suggest may have been removed from poverty under this regime. All of the pensioners I know have been plunged further into penury by the Chancellor�s pension fund raid and ever-increasing taxes).
Now Mr Cameron, in his desperate quest for power, promises us not the radical change that many people long for, but more political �middle ground� claptrap. So terrified are all the main parties of offending anybody, they appease any minority that shouts loud and long enough. The result is they please nobody and see the tenancy of power, rather than the prosperity of the country, as their crowning achievement.
The time has come for Party politics to be abandoned. The electorate should choose independent MPs who will represent their wishes on individual issues and who will not foist pre-packed party dogma (of any colour) upon them.
Unfortunately I have endured three terms of Labour government during my adult life. For sheer incompetence, greed, arrogance and ignorance of the electorate�s needs this bunch are far and away the worst. They�ve done nothing for me or anybody I know except steal more and more of our hard-earned and fritter it away on irrelevant wars, the work-shy, and the support of foreigners who hate us. (But then I�m English, pay my own way and try not to commit any crimes, so there won�t be much for me). Overarching all of this is continued association with a corrupt European ideological dream which benefits nobody except the ruling elite and �poor� new member states who must think they have opened a joint account with Bill Gates as part of their membership. (Incidentally ahhdundee, I don�t know where the 1m pensioners are whom you suggest may have been removed from poverty under this regime. All of the pensioners I know have been plunged further into penury by the Chancellor�s pension fund raid and ever-increasing taxes).
Now Mr Cameron, in his desperate quest for power, promises us not the radical change that many people long for, but more political �middle ground� claptrap. So terrified are all the main parties of offending anybody, they appease any minority that shouts loud and long enough. The result is they please nobody and see the tenancy of power, rather than the prosperity of the country, as their crowning achievement.
The time has come for Party politics to be abandoned. The electorate should choose independent MPs who will represent their wishes on individual issues and who will not foist pre-packed party dogma (of any colour) upon them.
Can anyone find a link to the footage of him adjusting his sleeve, to make his 'ENGLAND' rubbber bracelet more prominent?
He's talking to some Asda workers, adjusts his sleeve, and slyly looks at the camerea out of the corner of his eye to see if he's been doing it.
Shocking, even Blair wouldn't be so blatant in his attempts to look 'cool' and 'in touch'.
He's talking to some Asda workers, adjusts his sleeve, and slyly looks at the camerea out of the corner of his eye to see if he's been doing it.
Shocking, even Blair wouldn't be so blatant in his attempts to look 'cool' and 'in touch'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8gLYZV6Z4g
may amuse those of you who've never seen 'Time Trumpet'.
may amuse those of you who've never seen 'Time Trumpet'.
Well,cucuhullan:
You obviously like seeing 40%+ of your hard-earned cash being siphoned from you and much of it squandered on people who have made and never will make any contribution to your country.
You may also like being taken for a ride by the various shysters, crooks and charlatans that masquerade as politicians (of all parties) in this country.
You may well accept being treated like an idiot by people who have been elected to represent your interests.
You may enjoy living in a country that purports to be a democracy but in fact is an elected dictatorship. A country where you have, every five years or so, the choice of two packages, both of which are almost identical, neither of which suits anybody in particular, and both of which will be patently abandoned the day after polling day.
You may worship a Prime Minister who, within days of taking office, declared that the function of parliamentary backbenchers was to persuade their constituents that the government knew best, and not to trouble the executive with their requirements.
You might accept living in a country where the �rights� of violent criminals (both home grown and imported) take precedence over those of innocent victims.
I (and many like me) don�t like any of these things. We would prefer to see the original function of parliament � to enable local representatives to lobby for their constituents� interests and for the views of the majority to prevail � to be restored.
We don�t want to up sticks and leave simply to become immigrants in another land. We still believe this country has a lot going for it if only it could be rescued from the ruling elite that seems so intent on destroying its fabric.
And that�s why we �whinge� (as you so quaintly put it).
You obviously like seeing 40%+ of your hard-earned cash being siphoned from you and much of it squandered on people who have made and never will make any contribution to your country.
You may also like being taken for a ride by the various shysters, crooks and charlatans that masquerade as politicians (of all parties) in this country.
You may well accept being treated like an idiot by people who have been elected to represent your interests.
You may enjoy living in a country that purports to be a democracy but in fact is an elected dictatorship. A country where you have, every five years or so, the choice of two packages, both of which are almost identical, neither of which suits anybody in particular, and both of which will be patently abandoned the day after polling day.
You may worship a Prime Minister who, within days of taking office, declared that the function of parliamentary backbenchers was to persuade their constituents that the government knew best, and not to trouble the executive with their requirements.
You might accept living in a country where the �rights� of violent criminals (both home grown and imported) take precedence over those of innocent victims.
I (and many like me) don�t like any of these things. We would prefer to see the original function of parliament � to enable local representatives to lobby for their constituents� interests and for the views of the majority to prevail � to be restored.
We don�t want to up sticks and leave simply to become immigrants in another land. We still believe this country has a lot going for it if only it could be rescued from the ruling elite that seems so intent on destroying its fabric.
And that�s why we �whinge� (as you so quaintly put it).
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