Another thing about Muslims

[juddlinski]

Just wondering from the comments on muslim veils, police officers and mosques below - does anyone on this board actually respects people of the Muslim faith? Or are you all Daily Mail readers?

[Dassie]

Respect, Yes. Pandering to their every need, No.

[whiffey]

It's very frustrating when people say what they believe in.

[Pippa68]

I don't read the Daily Mail.

[johnizere]

respect?...take it or leave it.
moral dilemma cop?...summary dismissal.
Daily mail?....good crossword.

[DavidUK]

I have respect for several people I know and some of them are Muslims. In other words, whether I respect them or not is nothing to do with their religion.

There are Muslims who are good people and there are Muslims who are bad, same as in every religion.

[robertson]

It's worth considering how many of these so-called stories come about. A prominent person such as The Pope or Jack Straw will say something about Muslims which journalists will know they can generate strong reaction to, the journalists will then contact the usual extremists to get the required response and, hey presto, they'll state 'A controversy has arisen...' Who's really starting these fires? Who otherwise would even notice most of these comments? And, if you ask extremists for a response of course you're gonna get an extreme one.

[crete]

i dont disrespect anyones faith, i do get a bit fed up of people who on a daily basis have a rant about the muslim faith though.

[Catso]

I know very few, but I respect them as individuals.

I have very little respect for their faith's apparent inability to have any respect for any non-muslim.

[Octavius]

People earn one's respect no matter what creed colour or persuasion.

[noxlumos]

I respect people of all ethnicities, cultures, religious persuasions and social groups. I see no reason to dislike anyone because of their faith. I am Catholic, married to a Jewish woman and our best friends are Muslim. None of us have any difficulty dealing with that, because none of us are religious fundamentalists. If ANY of us were, Christian, Jew or Muslim, then clearly this happy and longstanding friendship would have floundered.
Someone's religion does not make them infallably right or wrong, it's just a facet of who they are. Their personal and social sense of responsibility and their conscious decions make them either someone I respect or someone I dont.
I don't read the Daily Mail, as it's a load of right wing, scremongering crap, I read, The Independant, The Guardian and the Times along with the Big Issue and An Phoblact if it's any help to your judgmental little self.

[Loosehead]

I find it hard to respect a group that consider me the infidel and who's stated aim is to cleans the world of infidels by conversion or extermination. I do not read any newspaper regularly.

[flip-flop]

....and The Daily Mail has what to do with anything???

I don't have a problem with Muslims per se - I have a huge, massive problem with the idiots that want to turn certain area of this country into a muslim ghetto and those that have a completely over the top reaction to minor things such as Straw's comments, the pope, the Danish cartoons and the people that want to see me, my wife and my three year old daughter dead because we are infidels.

If that is 'Daily Mail', then I guess I'd better start buying it.

[littleoldme]

I respect people of all religions, but don't necessarily respect the religions of all people.

[juddlinski]

flip flop - yes. The Daily Mail's the one for you.

[EverClean]

juddlinski - you have nothing to say, as usual. There is a knee-jerk reaction from Muslim nutters every time someone non-muslim sneezes. Burning effigies of the Pope and killing nuns as retribution for the Pope's speech is not a religion. It's just a bunch of crackpots looking for an excuse to have a fight. Not a lot of difference from the skinheads if you ask me.

[juddlinski]

Everclean. Muslims are like skinheads. Got you. Great debating skills.

[Octavius]

That is how fundamentalists or militants view it fender. Generally in Islam the word is Kafir (which translates to the English - infidel), but some scholars argue that people of the book - Christians, Jews etc - are not kafir because they are considered recipients of divine revelation from God. (i.e. they are not 'unbelievers'). However, other scholars, such as those backing militant Islamists, often do not make the distinction.

In order to make their actions just, these types will always refer any altercation as a holy war against Islam so that they can abide by the following when dealing with non-muslims:

"God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of [your] religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness (birr) and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice. God only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of [your] religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up [others] in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust".

[whiffey]

Come now juddlinski, your sarcastic thread was hardly designed to open intelligent debate surely !

You asked, people have responded. For the record, I will respect any person irrespective of belief if they are decent, but I do not respect the Islamic faith especially in its extreme forms. It is blindly intolerant and its expansion in the UK should be gently but firmly discouraged.