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MEP fights 'gay' books for schools
Books illustrating gay relationships are becoming part of the school curriculum under the new Sexual Orientation Regulations Act.
Titles such as 'The Sissy Duckling', 'Hello Sailor' and 'Daddy's Room mate' are recommended by Government departments for children aged 5 upwards.
One shows pictures of two males in bed together and cuddling on a sofa whilst 'Elmer' in 'The Sissy Duckling' is promoted as "a terrific role model for any child" on a Government website.
'Strange Boy' aimed at secondary stage pupils contains an explicit description of a homosexual act between two boys aged 10 and14 years old.
UKIP MEP Derek Clark described the books as "completely unsuitable" and said he was "appalled" at the decision by some local authorities to use the books.
"How is it in any way suitable for schools to promote under age homosexual acts?" asked Mr Clark, himself a teacher of 39 years.
"Schools should be concentrating on teaching children how to read and write. Is it any surprise that the UK has some of the worst rates of literacy in Europe when our teachers are having to spend their time promoting gay rights to youngsters?"
The new regulations could see schools compelled to promote gay rights in the curriculum rather than counter threats of legal action from gay activists.
I find this extremely alarming and I'm sure the majority of others will too. This sort of politically correct brainwashing ill-serves our children.
Books illustrating gay relationships are becoming part of the school curriculum under the new Sexual Orientation Regulations Act.
Titles such as 'The Sissy Duckling', 'Hello Sailor' and 'Daddy's Room mate' are recommended by Government departments for children aged 5 upwards.
One shows pictures of two males in bed together and cuddling on a sofa whilst 'Elmer' in 'The Sissy Duckling' is promoted as "a terrific role model for any child" on a Government website.
'Strange Boy' aimed at secondary stage pupils contains an explicit description of a homosexual act between two boys aged 10 and14 years old.
UKIP MEP Derek Clark described the books as "completely unsuitable" and said he was "appalled" at the decision by some local authorities to use the books.
"How is it in any way suitable for schools to promote under age homosexual acts?" asked Mr Clark, himself a teacher of 39 years.
"Schools should be concentrating on teaching children how to read and write. Is it any surprise that the UK has some of the worst rates of literacy in Europe when our teachers are having to spend their time promoting gay rights to youngsters?"
The new regulations could see schools compelled to promote gay rights in the curriculum rather than counter threats of legal action from gay activists.
I find this extremely alarming and I'm sure the majority of others will too. This sort of politically correct brainwashing ill-serves our children.
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Where is the evidence that the majority agrees with the OP..are we talking about AB majority or public majority?
If we are talking about AB majority, I think this thread has been poorly served. Many choose to stay away from such posts, mainly because they feel they are banging their heads against the wall.
If we are talking about AB majority, I think this thread has been poorly served. Many choose to stay away from such posts, mainly because they feel they are banging their heads against the wall.
Good Lord - it got all nasty whilst I was away!
Hammer Head - the reason why someone would be called racist or homophobic is when they are deemed to express racist or anti-gay sentiments.
The following question shows no sign of racism sentiments:
Q. Can anyone tell me whether the divorce rate amongst Muslims is any greater or less than amongst other religions?
The following does:
Q. Is it true that Muslims don't get divorced because they'd rather kill their wives first?
You see where I'm coming from?
Hammer Head - the reason why someone would be called racist or homophobic is when they are deemed to express racist or anti-gay sentiments.
The following question shows no sign of racism sentiments:
Q. Can anyone tell me whether the divorce rate amongst Muslims is any greater or less than amongst other religions?
The following does:
Q. Is it true that Muslims don't get divorced because they'd rather kill their wives first?
You see where I'm coming from?
Please don't mistake my personal thoughts on homosexuality, for an affinity for persecution of gay people.
I have expressed my thoughts and they have been misinterpreted, alas. The muslim mayor of Manchester at one point called for gays to executed - he must have thought he was home in the land of his fathers.
I, on the other hand, subscribe to defending ALL people where their civil liberties are concerned. I am not a 'homophobe' because I think sodomy is repulsive. If that's what they want to do, let them get on with it, but why shout about it from the rooftops?
I have expressed my thoughts and they have been misinterpreted, alas. The muslim mayor of Manchester at one point called for gays to executed - he must have thought he was home in the land of his fathers.
I, on the other hand, subscribe to defending ALL people where their civil liberties are concerned. I am not a 'homophobe' because I think sodomy is repulsive. If that's what they want to do, let them get on with it, but why shout about it from the rooftops?
Men can be gay without actually practising..I suspect there are quite a few in church on Sunday, as homosexuals appear to be welcome as long as they 'control their desires' that is all well & good for them, but that guy is still a homosexual..
I have also yet to see homosexual sex displayed in the streets. I remember a woman saying to me that she found it repulsive that homosexual couples 'display their affection in public' what she meant was witnessing them kissing. Well call be old fashioned if you like but I think that way about straight couples too.
I would find a straight couple groping each other and rolling around snogging in the park pretty gross.
I have also yet to see homosexual sex displayed in the streets. I remember a woman saying to me that she found it repulsive that homosexual couples 'display their affection in public' what she meant was witnessing them kissing. Well call be old fashioned if you like but I think that way about straight couples too.
I would find a straight couple groping each other and rolling around snogging in the park pretty gross.
Theland
Now, we're getting somewhere - take that out of the equation...because you know, not all gay couples do that...so if you took that out of the equation, does homosexuality still bother you?
The reason I ask, is that I think I may have come to an incorrect conclusion about several posters here. I want to know whether some straight people have a problem with gay people in general or 'the act'.
Now, we're getting somewhere - take that out of the equation...because you know, not all gay couples do that...so if you took that out of the equation, does homosexuality still bother you?
The reason I ask, is that I think I may have come to an incorrect conclusion about several posters here. I want to know whether some straight people have a problem with gay people in general or 'the act'.
There was some reference to AIDS a few pages back which stated the disease started with Gays and then spread into the wider heterosexual population.
May I just point out this is not wholly truthful. AIDS did become an issue in the WESTERN world when its prevalence was noticed amongst the Gay community in San Francisco, but it was present amongst the heterosexual communities in Africa and the Third World at the same time, but no one really cared and the governments of the region remained in denial.
That is not an attempt to whitewash the western experience of AIDS, but I hope it indicates the virus was not spread solely by the Gay community in the 1980's, if viewed in a worldwide context.
May I just point out this is not wholly truthful. AIDS did become an issue in the WESTERN world when its prevalence was noticed amongst the Gay community in San Francisco, but it was present amongst the heterosexual communities in Africa and the Third World at the same time, but no one really cared and the governments of the region remained in denial.
That is not an attempt to whitewash the western experience of AIDS, but I hope it indicates the virus was not spread solely by the Gay community in the 1980's, if viewed in a worldwide context.
Most of those books are basically children's picture books, apart from 'Strange Boy' which is an acclaimed piece of fiction. Take 'The Sissy Duckling' for example, which is about a duck who would rather bake cakes than play sports etc. When his father gets injured he proves himself to be a hero in spite of being a bit different to the other ducks. This is in no way different to something like Finding Nemo!!! If you can find me a 5 year old who can make a link between it and homosexuality I'll give you a tenner. It's purely about showing that everyone is different.
This is truly a terrifying and dangerous thing to be leaking into our schools.
This is truly a terrifying and dangerous thing to be leaking into our schools.
The last time a gay couple were in my home, (yes, honestly, they were,) I found them rather shy, very polite, and I found an element of novelty in the fact that although I have been in the company of gay people, individuals that is, this was the first time I had been in the company of a committed gay couple who obviously had a great affection for each other.
I was welcoming and polite, made conversation and tried to make them feel relaxed in my company. Why not? There's no excuse for bad manners is there?
But there relationship is there business, not mine. My relationship is my business, not theirs. None of us discussed sex or sexual orientation, probably something more mundane, I don't remember.
But I still think that homosexuality is not normal, and should not be presented as a normal relationship in schools, for example.
Gay people can't help the way they feel, and neither can I. I do not ever try to promote inequality of opportunity to any person, whatever their race, colour creed, gender, or sexual orientation. Well, apart from Chelsea fans that is. I make an exception for them!
I was welcoming and polite, made conversation and tried to make them feel relaxed in my company. Why not? There's no excuse for bad manners is there?
But there relationship is there business, not mine. My relationship is my business, not theirs. None of us discussed sex or sexual orientation, probably something more mundane, I don't remember.
But I still think that homosexuality is not normal, and should not be presented as a normal relationship in schools, for example.
Gay people can't help the way they feel, and neither can I. I do not ever try to promote inequality of opportunity to any person, whatever their race, colour creed, gender, or sexual orientation. Well, apart from Chelsea fans that is. I make an exception for them!
Just read all through this, took some time.
I attended a prestigious grammar school in the early 60's. 2 of the teachers were definately queer and would touch up the younger more naive boys. It was an all boys school, very bad idea. We older pupils thought it was a joke.In reality these teachers were paedophiles and should have been imprisioned. One of my drinking pals is queer, a nice chap none the less,just don't want to know of the grubby grimy things he gets up to. yuk.
I attended a prestigious grammar school in the early 60's. 2 of the teachers were definately queer and would touch up the younger more naive boys. It was an all boys school, very bad idea. We older pupils thought it was a joke.In reality these teachers were paedophiles and should have been imprisioned. One of my drinking pals is queer, a nice chap none the less,just don't want to know of the grubby grimy things he gets up to. yuk.
Theland's post of 12:03 is perfectly reasonable.
I don't think anyone should make anyone else feel embarrassed or uncomfortable just so they can 'make a point'.
I hate people who are in your face with regards to their relationships or sexuality.
I think where I differ from some of the posters here is that I honestly believe that there is still progress to be made with regards to certain rights.
The introduction of Civil Partnerships was a huge step forward, and whilst the Sexual Orientations Act will throw up a number of challenges that need to be overcome, at the end of the day, they will be overcome and people will become accustomed to the new levels of equality it introduces.
I don't think anyone should make anyone else feel embarrassed or uncomfortable just so they can 'make a point'.
I hate people who are in your face with regards to their relationships or sexuality.
I think where I differ from some of the posters here is that I honestly believe that there is still progress to be made with regards to certain rights.
The introduction of Civil Partnerships was a huge step forward, and whilst the Sexual Orientations Act will throw up a number of challenges that need to be overcome, at the end of the day, they will be overcome and people will become accustomed to the new levels of equality it introduces.
Sp1814, you say Chris Moyles and Clarkson should hang their heads in shame for using 'gay' as a negative.
Were YOU offended by that?
One of my friends is gay and i asked if he was offended by the negative gay thing, and he said he was fine with it. Im just wondering if every gay person is offended by that.
Were YOU offended by that?
One of my friends is gay and i asked if he was offended by the negative gay thing, and he said he was fine with it. Im just wondering if every gay person is offended by that.
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