Bear boxing in China....

[smudge]

The things some people go to for entertainment & the owners to earn money. They can't be right in the head!

What do you think of this story, regarding bears being forced to box each other, complete with boxing gloves & muzzles?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles /news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=468654&in_p age_id=1811

This cruelty to animals must stop!

[Gromit]

Er? Do you think it is then alright for men or young boys to go in the ring and attempt to smash the living daylight out of each other? I think it is far worse that people do this for entertainment.

[jake-the-peg]

Whilst I do agree with you it strikes me that all sorts of Human suffering goes on in the world, stavation, cruelty, murder and we tend to sigh and change channel.

But show us Brits a few pictures of some cruelty to animals and we take to the streets!

Why is that I wonder?, it does seem a peculiarly British trait

[smudge]

There's always one!

In this instance, I'm talking about bears & animals being mistreated. OK?

Human beings can speak for themselves - animals can't!

[sp1814]

Gromit

Difference with humans though is that there is a degree of choice.

The bears don't voluntarily put themselves up for this, whereas boxers choose whether to have their brains are scrambled for our entertainment.

[smudge]

Thanks sp - glad you understood the sentiments of my question.

[Gromit]

Well that's alright then.

Look at these bl00dy suicidal fools...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deaths_d ue_to_injuries_sustained_in_boxing

We should all boycott Chinese goods until these savages start behaving properly.

[B00]

Hey smudge :-)

Yes i agree, awful thing to do for "entertainment", in fact I'm too much of a wuss to even open the link, I can imagine what goes on.

Asian countries do not view animals as we Westerners (generally) do. I'm not saying this to be racist, it's a fact. To them any animal is there purely for a purpose, be it entertainment or food with not a thought of their well-being in the meantime.

As for the people who've compared it to human boxing, that's just ridiculous.

[smudge]

With respect Gromit - I think we're all aware of the injuries Boxing can cause to Human Beings - but maybe you'd like to start up another thread for that over in Sports or Body & Soul - as I mentioned before, this one is regarding cruelty to animals.

Mind you, you may find people will agree, that humans can think & talk for themselves & if boxing is their chosen profession, then it's between them & the Boxing Board....

[ruby27]

I hate cruelty to animals and boxing, personally find both distressing and not at all amusing. But, sadly not everyone thinks the same way.
It is beyond my comprehension that in this country where we are so called civilized and claim to abhor violence, we still have legitimate violence in boxing. The only message boxing gives is that the way to win is to hit harder.
The British may claim to be animal lovers but its not like the RSPCA or any other animal welfare organization has gone out of business or likely to do so in the near future.

[smudge]

Hi BOO - crossed posts.

I know what you mean about not wanting to look at the link, but I promise you, there's no gory details on it. It shows two innocent bears dressed up in boxing gloves, capes & string muzzles ready for Round 1. Oh, along with the morons ready for the show!

God knows what the bears look like after the fight though....

[Gromit]

Maybe you should have posted in Animals and Nature?

And what about the Turtles...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles /news/news.html?in_article_id=467090&in_page_i d=1770

Bl00dy chInkies, coming over here flogging their 42 inch Plasma televisions. It's an outrage!

[B00]

Why should she have posted this in A&N Gromit, it's an article that appeared in the news recently so therefore it's relevant to this section?

Instead of making sarcastic comments why don't you just state that you find the 'bear boxing' a good idea and be done with it?

[smudge]

Gromit - The reason I didn't post it in Animals & Nature, is because it was a story in the Newspaper this morning - you know current news!

There are lots of articles in the News category which could be moved to other categories, but which still remain.

No doubt someone will pop along & report it soon though.

Anyway, back to the 'original' question....

[smudge]

Crossed posts again BOO - thank you for that...;o}

[China Doll]

Personally I actually quite like boxing... or at least I like heavy weight boxing. Bear boxing is pretty heavy weight but not really quite what I had in mind.

As much as I feel very sorry for the bears involved I do find it difficult to get very worked up about this type of story. I can see how cruel it is but yet I really am quite apathetic about it all. Flaw in my own character I think. Sorry Smudge.

[B00]

Whilst i admire your honestly here CD I can't understand how you can be apathetic about cruelty?

[NJOK]

Personally, I love boxing. It's sport in its purest form.

But it's about freedom of choice, which bears don't have.

[sp1814]

I am no animal lover (I can't stand animals being any where near me - including cats, dogs, hamsters etc etc).

However, I don't see the point of using animals for entertainment or not thinking about suffering that can be caused to them by our thoughtlessness.

Incidentally, that story about cruelty to turtles in China has to be tempered by our understanding that we can be pretty nasty to some animals here...I mean, can we all say that we've only ever eaten humanely killed lobsters?

[smudge]

Oh, you don't have to apologise to me China Doll.

If you don't mind animal cruelty, then that's your prerogative. I just hope you don't have to eat your words, if & when any animals you may own are injured by some moron/s.

I find any kind of animal cruelty abhorrent - full stop.

[Gromit]

900+ deaths in boxing and you don't give a toss?

Who is the more inhuman?