Civil Liberties and Human Rights

[nedflanders]

I have never understood these people who complain about their Civil Liberties and Human Rights being violated by such trivial things as photo driving licences and now national identity cards. What is the big deal about having your personal info stored on a card. After all it could save your life and make things like organ donantions easier to handle.

[headlesspets]

waldomc... youre defensiveness is curious - what is wrong with broadening the debate on liberties vs. obligations/rights vs. responsibilities? it seems to me that one can't talk about one seriously without at least referring to the other.... there IS a lot of negative whinnying on about the nanny state, the erosion of rights, 1984 etc.. have you ever considered that if we were more personally responsible and civil there wouldn't be a 'need' for I.D. cards?

[Dave Potts]

Well I'M all for anthing which has my name and address on, especially at chucking-out time on a Friday, and hey, if it has my blood-group and organ donation details, all the better. Stop stealing stuff, start paying taxes like the rest of us and get out my way while I bend over for my micro-chip.

[WaldoMcFroog]

headlesspets; I was responding to QM's reducing the range of the debate with a closed statement of the kind he made; clearly there should be room for a reasoned debate without being anyone contrary to ones own position denouced in such a tabloid fashion. The same thing applies to the initial question, which was clearly being posted from an entrenched point of view - I hoped to poke fun at that by posting an equally entrenched opposite view.

[vittoria]

I believe in Italy, Greece and Spain they have id cards and the obligation to carry them at all times, and people in those countries do not feel under Big Bro's thumb... There is already an obligation to have your address changed on your driving licence when you move; I do believe you can get fined if you don't; so I personally don't see what the big deal is. I find it curious that I have to provide a load of different bits and pieces to open a bank a/c, even a library card etc, household bills, driving licence and whatnot. I'd rather have one doc that is authoritative enough so that they can't ask me to provide more id because what I've got is not acceptable etc etc etc...

[poadster]

Paulz 26/04 "what is there to fear if you've done nothing wrong?" Pity the xmillion Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other "undesireables" executed in the 1930's & 40's aren't around to answer that question for you. For me, it's my business who I am, it's not your business, nor not the police, not some conniving politician, and I don't intend, not now not ever, to carry an identity card.