London Zoo - Gay Sunday

[4getmenot]

I have just read in paper about 'gay Sunday' being held at London zoo. Why does anyone feel the need to have days like this anymore. It says they'll be a homosexual debate and drag queens, like all gay people like drag queens. I don't quite understand why a gay person would go to a day like this, if its to say they are gay and proud of it why do they feel the need they have to? It shouldn't be an issue surely by now we all know some people like the same sex some don't, some like both. Can gay people not go to a normal day at London Zoo because straight people will pick them out straight away? We don't separate black and white anymore so why should we make an issue out of being gay by having events like this? I;d just like to hear peoples views and maybe something that would change my mind about it being a waste of time

[China Doll]

Possibly more of a celebration/expression of being gay.

And while it may seem like a waste of time to some, gay people had to put up with a heck of a lot in the past to become fully accepted. Why shouldn't they celebrate it?

Which I think is the point of this... I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there an anniversary or something to do with the paper being released (13 years after it was written I believe) that said it was no longer illegal to be gay? (Although anal sex was still out of the question). If so, then it may well be the zoo marking this occasion.

[Shadow Man]

With all my (perceived) prejudices in the world I hold no ill feeling towards gaylords whatsoever.

However, I see no point why they have to have special days. It will just promote some hatred towards them like whem all the allah lot were going to have Alton Towers a few years back, remember?

[4getmenot]

but if I celebrated being hetrosexual there would be uproar. yes they got stick years ago but surely by now they dont need these events, we know there are gay people and majority of people treat them as equal. Any of my gay friends would never go to an event like that just to shout hey I'm gay.

[Reverandfunk]

I am not homophobic, I shared a flat with a gay guy I worked with for 18 months and never had any problems. However, I cannot see the need to have pride, marches etc etc, If it was the 60's then yes but in this day and age why?

I think a lot of it is the "look at me look at me" syndrome a la I am the only gay in the village.

The majority of people couldn't give a toss, just live your life and stop harping on about it.

[4getmenot]

and yes shadow man I do remember. Surely you can go to London Zoo any day of the week

[4getmenot]

thats a great point that Little Britain is taking the pee out of these so called people that harp on about it. You dont see hetrosexual going on about it. Gays shouls live their lives and ignore what homophobes say as surely thats just carrying it on.

[oldgrape]

hi 4getmenot long time no write

[Reverandfunk]

4get its not like we live in the 60's when "gays" were jailed, had to meet in secret, people went queer bashing etc etc, there are now thriving gay communities, clubs, dating sites etc etc so just live your lives and enjoy it.

If i organised a white straight male with no kids march there would be uproar.

[China Doll]

Celebrating being the accepted norm would be rather dull.

As I said, it might be to do with the anniversary of this paper if I haven't got my wires completely crossed.

I'm not gay. I've never had to fight to be accepted for something as trivial as who I prefer to have sex with. But I imagine that if I did and had to face that kind of hostility I'd want to celebrate the fact that times and opinions have finally changed.

I'm also not entirely sure that the majority of people have the mindset to take people as equals, gay or otherwise. I think that entirely depends on your social circle.

However, I can think of things I'd rather do than go to the zoo.

[jake-the-peg]

Wolfenden report 1957 recommended the decriminalisation of Homosexual acts - actually happened 10 years later.

I went to Bletchley Park with the kids the other week - lots of stuff about Alan Turing and how he was a great British genius who played such a huge part in winning the war.

They didn't stress that he was gay and in the 50s was prosecuted for gross indecency (In his own home with another consenting adult) and forced to have estrogen injection to try to 'cure him'. He grew breasts and became so depressed that in the end he killed himself.

It's worth remembering what happened to people like him 40 years ago as much as it's worth remembering VE day

[NJOK]

Regarding the 'allah lot' at Alton Towers, this is a popular misconception. It wasn't Muslim Day when non-Muslims were turned away at the door. It was hired privately, for money, by a Muslim group for the benefit of its members.

Anyone can hire Alton Towers for the day. The Tussauds group frequently hires the site out privately, closing its doors to the public for a large fee.

You might as well gripe at British Airways for renting it out for staff away days.

Or is that a case of the PC brigade positively discriminating in favour of air hostesses?

[4getmenot]

Oh wow can they, right everyone lets have an AB day at Alton Towers :-) and jake the peg I can see your point. But really isnt inviting drag queens kind of stereotyping?

[Reverandfunk]

Please dont be sick over me on the big dipper 4get

[jake-the-peg]

I think there is a certain rather flamoyant section of the gay community that tends to grab attention on events like this and ends up giving some people the impression that all homosexuals are all 'screaming queens', cross dressers and butch women in dungarees.

That's probably rather unfortunate but one I'm happy to let the gay community fight out amoungst themselves

[4getmenot]

you didnt here about me last time rev did you? :-)

[Reverandfunk]

I dread to think lol

U werent in uniform again were u?

I should have some pics next week Ive actually bought a digital camera lol

[NORMANTHEDOG]

gay day at london zoo,quite approriate,animals looking at animals

[jake-the-peg]

and commented on by Normathedog

How very surreal!

[China Doll]

Ah.... There's that majority of people I was looking for....