community support officers

[sinbadp]

what kind of a society have we become where police officers whether trained or not in rescue would stand on the bank of a pond while a ten year old boy drowns as happened in wigan.

[Reverandfunk]

is there a link

[sinbadp]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/ 7006412.stm

[jackthehat]

This is also a question on AB entitled pcso, Rev.............the circumstances are explained a little better there

[Reverandfunk]

Weren't trained in what?

Jumping into water and holding someone's head above it???

[jackthehat]

See this for additional details............

/www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Media-and-TV/Question458734.html

[jackthehat]

Damn !
www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Media-and-TV/Question458734.html

[jackthehat]

D'oh ! Sorry !
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Media-and-TV/Qu estion458734.html

[Reverandfunk]

Them jumping in as well wouldn't have hurt

[Twenty20]

Not quite what it seems.......by the time they got there the boy had already drowned. What they were saying was that they weren't trained to go in and search for and retrieve the body.

[natalie_1982]

I wish people would read the whole story before they post these crappy question titles making it sound like two police officers stood and watched a child drown.

In reality, accoridng to the news anyway, the PCSOs arrived on the scene after the boy had disappeared from view, and I agree with Rev that perhaps it wouldn't have hurt to jump in and help, but none of us were there and the facts haven't exactly been included in the question title so how can the poster afford to judge?

What kind of society have we become when we are ready to hang a member of the (civilian) police force because we inaccurately interpreted a news story?

[MrBen5]

I agree natalie. i am sure 2 officers wouldnt have just stood by and watched a young person drown.
I think the police get too much stick these days.
I think the majority do a very good job in protecting and helping the public...

[Gromit]

MrBen5

What about this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles /news/news.html?in_article_id=482898&in_page_i d=1770

15 yo brandishing an AK47 gun at rail station. Cops took a week to talk to the witness who repiorted it (who had CCTV footage).

Adequate resonse?

[MrBen5]

Yeah gromit, but their response was quick was it not.
On this occasion, the PC brigade raised its ugly head.
Also, i did say the majority ;)

[Gromit]

MrBen5

I don't think it is the PC brigade that object to PCSOs. It is the right wing press that are the biggest critic. The Daily Mail insists on calling them Blunkett's Bobbies.

I am surprised that you are quite happy for gun totting youths to roam the streets for a week before the police get off their ar5ses.

[jackthehat]

On the news I saw this' AK47' the lad was brandishing seemed to have the big almost circular cartridge case under a la Al Capone..............

[laurence2]

So where were the ''parents'' when this tragic accident unfolded?

[Dassie]

Apparently the kids had been here many times before and I guess you have to be able to trust them now and again.

The police have defended the PCSOs by saying " they weren't trained " Did the man who pulled the survivors off that Thai aircrash have any "training"???? Have previous rescuers from the general public had any "training"?? No ........you do what you can and if that involves jumping into water well so be it. How could they know for sure the boy was dead just because he wasn't in "view" ?? People in cars disappear under water but you don't just say " Oh they must be dead without checking first ! "

Pretty poor show I reckon.

[1rovert]

Come off it Laurence2! That was going to be my question.
Saw it on the News, Mother looks like another parent who shouts after the horses have bolted.

[laurence2]

Dassie.

The kids had been there mant times before {unsupervised?}

Children+water = mischievous.

The parents are just trying to finger point, i'm sure we all would of jumped in if we were there.


The CSO's believed that they were doing the right thing be it right or wrong, one person has lost his life, lets not try to apportion the blame to others.

Look no further than the parents i'm sorry to say, they must be riddled with guilt

[1rovert]

.... and Dassie, they arrived AFTER the boy had gone under, if you know anything about these quarries are that they fill with water, about a yard from the edge, most are a shear drop. I am absolutly certain that had the officers had arrived as the boy went in, they would have gone in for him.