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Half of all single mothers don't want to work

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AB Asks | 10:17 Tue 02nd Oct 2007 | News
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A report has found that half of single mothers don't want to work. Labour is trying to reduce the number of people on living on benefits and current schemes to get lone parents into work are currently failing. There have been some discussions over the summer about withdrawing benefits from those who outright refuse to work. This approach was taken in the US by Bill Clinton in the nineties and proved successful. Labour is instead going to offer more incentives and extra benefits to encourage people to work. What do you think? Should we act like Clinton and withdraw benefits if these people refuse to work? Or are more and better incentives the way to encourage lone parents back into a job?
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I do have children! and I know an awful lot about nursery schools and I wouldn't use them! (I worked in Educatrion for a long time) I don't believe that children in nursery schools every day are socialised properly. They may learn to mix with babes and toddlers but they don' t learn about the real world. There are other places that your children can learn to socialise with their peer groups! I used toddler groups, etc.

Isn't that the whole point, Confused? It's each to their own opinion, and people feed off it.
Ice Maiden, not just because you agree with me - but I see your reply as well thought out and constructed and am rather surprised at Confused's outburst. We are entitled to our opinions.
I would use a child minder if I had to. But it would have to be someone well known to me and my child and it would only be for short times. I say again, I would never use a Nursery.
There is a woman in our village on benefits who has 4 kids by different men and she goes to Florida every year, she drives a brand new people carrier and the kids have absolutely everything. It makes me sick that people like this get everything paid for. If she can afford to live like this then she can afford to pay council tax and dental treatment etc. By the time we have paid the mortgage and council tax we have very little to live on and my hubby works 6 days a week. My husband says at least we have our pride but it's very wrong that people on benefits have a better lifestyle than those who work.
I totally agree that people on benefits shouldn't have a better lifestyle than people that work. I think we should all have a reasonable lifestyle and that when children are young we shouldn't force their mothers back to work. I don't believe that people should have children if they can't afford them without both parents working full time whilst the children are young. Tough, but life is tough.

I can assure you that a single mum with 4 kids who is on benefits could not afford to go to florida every year or buy a brand new people carrier,she most probably has other income that hasn't been declared,or she or one of her children are disabled and she is getting disability living allowance on top of income support. The government doesn't provide hundreds of pounds in benefit for a mother of 4 to live on. There is a list of the benefit rates on the site linked below.

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/Customers/ WorkingAgeBenefits/Incomesupport/index.html
Therefore, I dont believe we should single out single mothers because a lot of these people are in this position due to no fault of their own and they should be allowed the bring up their young children for the first few years of their life, with government help if necessary.

This whole debate should be about people on benefits who are capable of working - not single mothers.
Believe me, it's true. She has no disabled kids and she DOES go to Florida every year. Oh and yes, she also smokes and drinks. She has been reported but nothing seems to have been done.
I agree, daffy.

My sister and brother in law (note: not single) are on benefits and they can afford many luxuries ~ plasma TV, holidays, new car etc etc. All through false declarations...I have told her she is living on borrowed time.
Exactly Daffy, and even with housing relief there are not many of us that could manage very well.
This is true daffy. If someone's able to have holidays abroad and live well on benefits, then they're obviously getting extra money from somewhere else. A single parent who has a disabled child, for instance, can apply for money which allows them to go on holiday. Where they go with this money is up to them, but before people start shouting that it's not fair, these breaks are perhaps the only ones which these people get, and because I work with folk in these circumstances, they deserve it, in my opinion.
God, this makes me so angry that once I start I can't stop......... Another thing that really makes me mad is when these young couples 'can't live together cos of stress' so they are given seperate council flats or whatever............which also means 2 lots of benefits !!
You're right lofty. I see these situations every day. I let children ride my horses for therapy, and if I know someone can't afford this, they can do it for free. However, to those who oppose single parents being on benefits so much, of course there are those who make any excuse not to work - just as there are people who go to work and spend their time on here instead of doing the job they're getting so well paid for.
jillius,not all single parents live in council flats/houses on cheap rent. Where I live there is a 12 year waiting list for housing association houses(the council sold all their stock in 2000),most people pay private rent round here,the people on benefits get a set amount of housing benefit which doesn't always cover the total rent,this must be made up out of the income support they receive. Even housing association rents here are around �70.00 per week for a 2 bed flat,I know this isn't as much as you would pay in the south but is still more than they are worth in my opinion.
I fail to see how being ignored and shouted at at home by parents who can't be bothered to work or give their children some utopian childcare experience is better than them being given childcare. I also thought the comment that parents who can't afford to have their children without both working full time to support them was ludicrous. Who do you think is supporting the non-working payments on benefits to stay at home? What kind of society do you think that we are storing up for the future? My kids already have it well drummed into them that if they want to have the things that the need and want wehn they are older that they will have to work. In order to get a good job, they already know (at 7 and 6) that they will have to work hard at school and behave both out of and in school.

But then again, I am a working parent so I will probably not be bringing my kids up properly. I mean, they don't even know how to buy fags or what the national lottery is. What a disgrace we are, poor things don't even have sky telly.
Excuse me Annie, but you seem to indicate that non working parents are all sitting around smoking and buying national lottery tickets, etc. Perhaps some of them are actually giving their children a broader understanding of life and enjoying doing so, rather than seeing them cooped up in a nursery all day. By the way, I don't smoke, don't do the national lottery, don't have a lot of possesions and definitely don't have Sky TV (or even a decent TV for that matter) I did work part time, but only in anti social hours when their father was with them.

I actually think it is more economically viable in the long term to give an allowance which enables one parent to be at home whilst the children are very young. It will save all the money that is spent out on trying to control our crumbling society and rising crime these days.

That is my opinion. If parents want to work and farm their children out then it is up to them.
Brilliantly put Lofty. i think your observationsare spot on.
At all times I am talking about pre-school children. I fully appreciate that it is possible to combine working with bringing up children of school age.
And better than my typing at present!! Lol

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