Should society do more to help the sad gits??

[MrsT]

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?fo rumID=3635&edition=1&ttl=20071005155501

[Gromit]

No.

[Shadow Man]

No. They chose to light up, they can chose to quit.

It is not hard, it just takes a bit of self respect and maybe some will power.

I know!!! When I was about 13 some older boys gave me a cigarette behind the gym at school. I had a puff and it was foul. Am I addicted? Have I got lung cancer and yellow fingers? Do I smell like a tarts ashtray?

No, no and thrice No!!!

Filthy habit, filthy people. All they have to do is stop smoking. Simple as that really.

[howlie]

No. To my eternal shame I smoked for a while but gave up without help and massive bags of sweeties!!

[beerbelly]

no .

[cazzz1975]

I think society is doing enough to help people, its about time that the people tried being a little stronger and helped themselves.

you will never force people to do anything so the emphasis should be on the person helping themselves for their own good! addiction can be kicked, people just dont seem strong enough to do it..

[andrea81]

I've never smoked so I cannot comment on how hard it is to give up and wont even clame to understand, but I do think that there are people out there who reallt want to quit and find it hard, so help should be available! Just like I would expect the NHS to sort me out for climbing a tree and falling out of it braking my leg. I climbed so should I be punished by not getting help?

Only a thought, I am against smoking but reality is somewhat different isn't it, people make mistakes and are allowed to rectify!

[delboy3]

Nobody helped me to give up, but then again I didn't seek anyone's help. The only thing I used was a little something called will power.

[daffy654]

Careful you don't break something when you fall of your high horse there.

I am a smoker but I don't expect any help to quit.

[China Doll]

No.

I still smoke and am unwilling to give up at the moment.

If and when I do decide to I know what resources are available to me. Most smokers do.

[flip_flop]

No.

Same for fat bloaters as well - they have a disgusting habit, feeding their fat faces with anything that doesn't move and is not nailed down, they should also use willpower to shift their lard.

Urghh, they make my skin crawl the fat, sweaty, smelly, disgusting, grotesque lardy bloaters.

I find smoking much less of a disgusting habit.

[ludwig]

No. We should treat them like adults and leave them alone.
There's plenty of help out there if they want it.

[Dassie]

Yes give them a hand to quit..................slap an extra �5 tax per packet on them.

[Doc Spock]

Another bl00dy sanctimonious round of bashing the smokers.

Any ideas where the govt. is going to conjure up the �42,000,000 deficit if all smokers quit.

That is per day BTW. I reckon you could build a hospital every day with tat sort of cash.

[Dassie]

They just increase other taxes such as the 2p a litre on petrol and another 2p next April. Now if the Govt. cut their bureaucracy and inefficient running of departments, wasting the taxpayers money left, right and centre then they wouldn't need to replace the tax loss.

[anotheoldgit]

Another bl00dy sanctimonious round of bashing the smokers.

Very well said Doc Spock

One can be anti smoking, but why are the majority also very rude. And why do people such as that obviously horrible individual flip-flop, find the need to slag off people who obviously have a weight problem?

Is she/he not intelligent enough to realise that not all over weight people's body weight is a direct consequence of over eating. There are many medical conditions that can cause obesity.

cushing's syndrome, a disorder involving the excessive release of the hormone cortisol

hypothyroidism, a condition caused by an underactive thyroid gland.

To name just a couple.

Perhaps flip-flop is very under weight and ugly with it, who knows? It takes all sorts to make up the rich tapestry of life.

[anotheoldgit]

Why are the ani smoking brigade so against any help for smokers, yet don't seem to bother about millions being spent on drug uses?

Drugs are illegal yet tobacco is not. It is the goverment's reponsibility to help smokers to quit, in fact smokers should have the right to sue the goverment, for not making tobacco illegal.

Even prisoners can claim compensation for having to go cold turkey, while they are in prison, and yet they're partaking in an illegal act, with their habit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6142416.stm

[alijangra]

There is actually loads of help available for smokers already, isnt there?? My mum has had umpteen prescriptions for nicotine replacement therapy but she never sticks to it. If a smoker wants to stop, they will stop. End of story. Been there, got the T-shirt.
My dad, who was a heavy smoker, never lit up again after his heart attack 24 years ago. There needs to be an incentive, if people wish to disregard their health then let them.

[velvet lady]

i`m an ex smoker, i quit with my partner, smoked ourselves silly one nite and got plastered and then felt SOOOOOOO ill the next day, we were not able to move off the sofa. then we took it one day at a time, and flip flop. losing weight is sooooo much harder than stopping smoking, as u still need to eat to survive where as with smoking u dont. unless u have had a stress related weight problem like i did, then best not to comment! its hurtful. glad i dont now u, as wouldnt want to be called a lardy fat cow. i have men and woman compliment me on my figure, curvy with huge tits too, not skinny with a flat chest, .....