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Loosehead | 08:56 Fri 11th Jan 2008 | News
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Is the halo slipping from the "Non addictive", "Harmless" fluffy Bunny wonder drug?

A prize for the first person to try and change the subject to booze!
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Cannabis is for the weak and lonely.

I ask ANY d!ckhead who states it is OK to answer how healthy they are? I will bet my house that those who take drugs have other ailments and illnesses.

Most drug users have mental illness. They must have. Why would anybody put hallaucogenic (Sp?) or artifical stimulants in their body if there was nothing missing in some way?

Also, I strongly believe that ANY parent, driver, controller of dangerous machines and those in charge of peoples' welfare who fail a drugs test should be killed. Even this so called "harmless drug". Dope is as bad as smack in the long run.

That'll teach them.
I apologise Loosehead, I only scanned the thread.

I still think it's about quantity and predisposal to medical conditions. My aunt has a range of mental disorders, psychosis and pathalogical lying which fall under some sort of identity disorder and cant remember what it is, might be histironic identity disorder. She probably did smoke a few joints in her teens, but I did too, and I reckon way more than she did, so why did I end up the way I did and she did the way she has?

Heroin has a similar bad press on these things but many psychiatrists believe that drug abuse and the onset of mental illness are hard to distinguish and some users use to surpress the feelings they have in an illness. Please don't think I think heroin is a good thing, have never taken it and never ever would and I would chop off my arm before I ever took it.
Bellendway the only drug **** test you'll get out of me is a taste test
p * s s
Loose don't live in Holland but have been several times - I'll post something later from home so I explain it correctly - biology is not my forte
I've probably smoked a couple of acres of weed and I've still got a strong grip on reality. It does have it's side effects, lethargy, apathy, uncleanliness etc but when treated with respect it doesn't endanger anybody. It can be a good laugh or can send you into states of extreme thought. I've had many a revelation on weed.
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OK Paul thanks.

GS: No problem, you see now though that we are actually having a discussion about the original subject matter!
For the main part my sympathies are with paulos and I believe too what GS says about mental illness. I think with some people it can be very difficult to tell which came first, the mental illness or the drugs. Much the same way as those who fall in to alcoholism or other form of addiction there is usually a root cause.

However, in the interests of fairness, i do also think that 123 hit on something too regarding sink estates with young teenagers who are unable to moderate or rationalise their use. There is a difference between them smoking a joint and me doing so. But then perhaps that's back to root cause too? Escapism from poverty? I honestly don't know.
screech - uncleanliness explain please? I will agree that it's difficult to do what you don't want to do - but as long as you understand that there's no problem
I also believe medicinal cannabis should be avaible to those who suffer pain that cant use other pain killers. I have gallstones and cant take asparin, or NSAIDs because of allergies. I won't take the paracetamol/codeine because it zonks me out, to the point that I wouldn't be able to wake up if the hopuse caught on fire and I have two kids to be responsible for and I can't go into hospital to get the diamorphine drip as regularly as I need it, as it's just plain inconvenient.

If I had medicinal cannabis avaible to me, for when I get biliary colic (not during the acute attacks as I dont think it would be strong enough) I could get a friend to nip over and help me with the kids and something might actually take the pain away. I couldn't smoke or eat whilst in this pain as both would make me chuck up.
Christ, I have just read Wardy's answer. Anyone else fancy the job of explaining to my kids that we shot your mum because she had 2 glasses of wine with her dinner last night!?
I see you are a picture of health GS.

I rest my case
Well she's certainly healthier than some of your opinions Wardy. I would have thought snide and personal comments were beneath someone of your intelligence.
Crash dieting caused my gallstones. So getting slimmer has caused me health problems and weed hasn't. There are no links to gallstones and occasional cannabis use or even heavy cannabis use, except on planet Wardy it seems.
How can it be a personal comment when I posted about health and then somebody gives me their complete medical history??

Is this not a debate.

If not I have rested my case anyway.

Either way I am right, am I not?

And the hell ever said I was intelligent?

DEATH TO DRUGGIES.
I lost 3 stones in 14 days once on a survival course. I also lost about 2 stones when I was stabbed.

Did I get gallstones?? No.

Have I ever smoke weed??? No.

Is there a relationship?????? Probably not, but hopefully if the timings were right, your blood pressure may have crept up a little bit to make you now smile. Which is a healthy thing!!!!
Wardy m'dear, I'm sure you know by now that when it comes to opinions regarding news, politics, religion or society, I rarely think you're right!

But I've never questioned your intelligence. Just how you direct it which I belive is why we usually agree to disagree.

Incidently.. death to druggies might not have worked so well for your professed music tastes. A world without Bowie? Surely not!
China in answer to evertons rubbish - some people eat with their mouths open I find that offensive lets ban food. It is irrelevant how people smoke it on 'sink' estates

No victim , no crime

The difference being though Wardy is you weren't a tubby, tubby lard arse stuffing your face with cakes before hand. I have two grandads, both smoked, one had lung cancer and drove, the other didn't have lung cancer and didn't drive. Was it the car driving that caused the lung cancer or the smoking?
Do you get stabbed regularly?

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