Muslims good for the UK?

[flipnflap]

Can anyone tell me what good / positive things Muslims have done or do for the UK?

[Trojanfarce]

I'm kind of interested (but only moderately so) in what Keyplus90 sees as the "consequences" of being homosexual?
Birdie - Thunderous applause.

[northboy]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Cul ture/Question549597.html
read this

[keyplus90]

Birdie � You really sound like a little birdie to me. I will tell you why.

1 � You said Muslims killed innocent people in raids, on the command oh Muhammed (pbuh). Have you got any idea that what those handful Muslims had to go through over 10 years at the hands of those people only because they declared that �there is only one God�. As I said yesterday before looking at the results you should look at the reasons.

2 � You are saying that Islam permits killing a murderer and that is wrong, I will ask you when someone will kill your loved one and court will only send him in for 5 years and after that he would be wandering around in front of your eyes again. As long as you are trying to make that mischief makers only means who is not Muslims, then I have already said you really are a birdie. People who were killed in your given verse of quran were Muslims too, but they were still killed because they brought mischief in the land by killing someone who did good to them. Again I would say you got this dodgy translation of Verse from Quran but you did not know the background.

3 � About Bush and Blair � So it is ok to kill millions when religion is not involved and wrong to kill few hundred for religion. Although I am not glorifying INNOCENT of any kind. Although Somewhere along the line Bush and Blair did say that they invaded Iraq because God told them to do so. If you are not aware then look in the media somewhere. If not let me know and I would find that for you.

4 � This one is most horrendous as you mean that because Americans were the only nation with Atom bomb so it gave them the right to use it. Very well I appreciate your view point. Moreover you now have confirmed my belief that why Americans want few countries to sign CTBT and few countries they are helping to develop this weapon which one day will finish the human race.

[keyplus90]

cont: They themselves do not want to sign it. To date I believe they are worried about, Pakistan, Iran and North Korea.

I would love to have your views on this. In the end I would say that I can give you a very long list of people with huge knowledge about all the religions of the world and who became Muslims at the end. Can you give me few names who went away from Islam because only they found something wrong in Islam. I am not talking about the lot I mentioned in my previous answer, who did so only because they wanted to do things which Islam does not allow.

[keyplus90]

Birdie - Do you know that Muslims were first made to leave their home, families and everything when they migrated to Madina from Makkah.

But still when they occupied Makkah again not through sword but because majority of the people there became Muslims later so the enemy died their own death. Still when Muhammed (pbuh) entered into Makkah at that point he did not take any revenge fro any one.

I know you would not believe that any way and instead would come up with some sort of misconception.

[4GS]

You can tell a muslim a mile away, long ridiculous robes, mad staring eyes, bushy eyebrows and great big mustaches.
And the men look pretty much the same

[keyplus90]

Trojanfarce � I can only give you few links about what you asked for. But I am sure if you google then you should be able to find so many.

http://www.narth.com/docs/risks.html

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID =48542

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homo sexuality/ho0075.html

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=755

[Trojanfarce]

Um, Keystage2, about the consequences of being homosexual.........?

[Trojanfarce]

Oh of course, HIV et al is all the fault of the homosexual community, how dull of me not to have cottoned on in the first place.
Tell me, where do you stand on a muslim women being lashed/put to death for adultery but the man walking away scot-free?

[keyplus90]

Trojanfarce � An Islamic perspective about the same.


http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporar y/2003/02/article01-7.shtml

http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporar y/2003/07/article02.shtml

[Trojanfarce]

Hmm, confirmation then of the rigidity and intolerance of Islam. Funny that certain viewpoints on here label people who are against Islam as "rascist" or "ignorant" but those same people seem to have no problem with your own ignorance and intolerance.
Still waiting for your views of women adulterers.......

[keyplus90]

I have no idea where you got the idea that women is punished and man walks free? It is totally wrong.

[Le Chat]

Keyplus' telling comment "Even about 9/11 now many knows who really was behind that. " seemed to go unnoticed. I think a lot of Muslims like to fool themselves that they were 'set up' with regard to 9/11. I think this speaks volumes.
Birdie - Keyplus has a 'Mohammed Al Fayed' way of not quite listening and not quite understanding and slightly fudging the question and the answer.

[persianlady]

seems to me that Islam is very very unPC.........Opression of women, homosexuals,etc. If muslims want to live in an Islamic country, why do they come here?

[keyplus90]

Birdie � see where the difference is. Your words, Mohammed lead his followers in numerous raids where innocent people were routinely slaughtered</1>

My words You said Muslims killed innocent people in raids, on the command oh Muhammed (pbuh). Have you got any idea that what those handful Muslims had to go through over 10 years at the hands of those people only because they declared that �there is only one God�.. Still this was during the battles which war imposed on Muslims, or check Old map of Arab and you would know where these were fought. Most of them defensive.

Your words, Muhammad makes clear that those 'mischief makers', i.e. the Infidels (Jews, Chrisians, pagans, all non-Muslims) are to be killed.

My words, As long as you are trying to make that mischief makers only means who is not Muslims, then I have already said you really are a birdie. People who were killed in your given verse of quran were Muslims too, but they were still killed because they brought mischief in the land by killing someone

Le Chat � Your words, I think a lot of Muslims like to fool themselves that they were 'set up' with regard to 9/11

My humble effort, http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context =viewArticle&code=20060910&articleId=3198
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/WAR.htm l
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/

[keyplus90]

Persian lady � our words, seems to me that Islam is very very unPC.........Opression of women, homosexuals

My humble effort,

http://www.themodernreligion.com/w_main.htm

http://www.islamawareness.net/Converts/
most of them are women and they are happy to be Oppressed


http://www.narth.com/docs/risks.html

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID =48542

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homo sexuality/ho0075.html

http://www.mfc.org/contents/article.cfm?id=755


http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporar y/2003/02/article01-7.shtml

http://www.islamonline.net/english/Contemporar y/2003/07/article02.shtml