To the Europhiles....

[R1Geezer]

We actually signed up for the Common Market, can anyone tell me why we need anything more than mutal cooperation and trading agreements? Is there any advantage to being federalised as we are now?

[tigerlily11]

Sorry that title shouldbe of all.
It's gonna be one of those days.

[tigerlily11]

Hey that shpuldn't of happend I wasn't even on this post!!!!
WTF is going on here.

[jake-the-peg]

Who's the most powerfull nation in the world?

The US why? Because they're big

Shortly followed by the Chinese why? because they're big

Spotting a pattern yet?

Why did we get dragged into the Iraq war? because we needed to stay in with the US

The EU has a GDP in excess of the US and has the clout to resist being pushed about.

It's a case of get big or get lost.

The EU has also resisted large companies like Microsoft imposing record fines for anti-competive behaviour on them

Can you ever see any UK government ever doing this?

Of course this sort of behaviour is not popular with US media and other organisations and they'll attempt to undermine the EU at any chance.

Like when the EU tried to cut the cost of fuel in the UK in 2002

[sp1214]

Now there is talk of a European Army maybe the British warmongers and politicians can retire to their fox holes.

[Gromit]

Sounds like you are stuck in the early 70s R1Geezer.

Mrs Thatcher and Mr Major signed us up for a lot more than a common market. They even took us into the ERM with disastrous results.

Mr Brown has been resolute in his resistance to adopt the Euro, so I am assuming you will vote for him at the next election, and not the tories who are happy to sign away everything to Brussels

[brionon]

Well it's all the fault of Europe innit ?
No wot I mean ?

[anotheoldgit]

Yes I heard this also sp1214.

What will this mean I wonder? Britain in the thick of the action and the rest of Europe, just playing at soldiers.

Isn't this, what is happening now with our European partners in NATO?

[Goodsoulette]

We're not federalised, we aren't even truly confederalised. Subsidiarity is the key to the EU and if in practice efficiently I believe it would benefit every member country.

I'm with Jake here, do we really want to be stuck here on our own! It's like people want the benefits but don't want
to do any giving.