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anotheoldgit | 14:40 Sun 17th Aug 2008 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-104599 1/Anti-facist-protesters-clash-riot-police-out side-BNP-festival.html

Another example of how nasty and violent the Left can be.

They are not great supporters of free speech also.
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Jake so what are you going to do about it then?

If I remember rightly, I once heard a BNP councillor saying that all people that weren't British, meaning their families originated from other countries, should be sent back to their 'home' countries. I pmsl at this!!!

how far back would you have to go to make you a legitimate Briton? On this point the BNP fail to see that people have been moving between countries since God was a boy.

I don't know alot about this party, but I'm not impressed with them and they do seem to be white supremists. Have they ever said anything explicitly racist?
Fact is that however stupid and/or outdated their views are they are LEGAL organisation and therefore have the sames rights as any other political party.

If they are so bad then outlaw them and make membership illegal.
i do wonder why they haven't been banned already????
Is it not the case that allowing people like the BNP to hold rallies, and to publicise their views, enables the rest of us, normal people, to see how unpleasant they are?

Sadly, the people who oppose them have historically shot themselves in the foot ...

For so many years, the Left referred to Margaret Thatcher as a "Fascist". Now, when someone with real fascist tendencies comes along, the Left shout "Fascist", and we all think "Yeah, yeah, probably just another vaguely right of centre party with whom the Left disagrees".

Sadly, there has been too much crying wolf. By referring to so many centre right movements as "Fascist", when a real fascist comes along, the word is not scary any more.

Ah, the freedom of speech argument. Why do people get it so so wrong?

If person A slams the views of person B, he's not curtailing person B's freedom of speech. He's exercising his own.

Sadly, though, when you tell someone that their views are racist or fascist or just wrong, they often lack the wherewithal to mount a counter-argument. So they bleat that they're being repressed.

The BNP held a festival. The anti-fascists held a protest. The police got involved and it all got a bit shirty. Christ, is that it?
Lucy Thomas

You need to understand that my posts are normally within the context of threads about race.

Do you think it would be best if black people just hushed up and didn't get involved with any discussion on race?

Seriously. Is that what would be best?

Do you think that perhaps I might have a valid point of view to express?

Maybe you as (I assume) a white woman have a much keener insight on race issues...rather than someone who grew up in South London and knows the issue of race first hand.
Was that a response to mine, Quinlad?

If so, I wonder if you may have misinterpreted the point?

In your example, I agree that person A should have a similar freedom.

But instead of "slamming" the views of person B, person A says "I disagree with you, and therefore I wish to prevent you from speaking at all" ... person B drives person A underground.

How then do we know what person A's true colours really are?

How do we know that we must avoid electing person A?

Lucy Thomas

It occurs to me that you've just made something up.

You said that most of my posts are all about how hard life is for black people.

I'm off to lunch now, and whilst I'm gone I challenge you to find ten posts from me where I've complained about life for black people.

If you can find ten posts, I will donate �10 to a charity of your choice.

Believe me, I will do this. I think I had a bet with Oneyedvic in the past where I lost and coughed up.

The only proviso is that I won't donate money to the BNP or UKIP.
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Do you really think I'm going to waste an afternoon proving a point to someone who doesn't matter?
Hey... Enough with the Peckham bashing, I happen to like living around there strange as that may seem! ;0P

I tend to agree with Quin's analysis of the situation. Plus I find it hard to unite the liberal lefties notorious limp wrists and weak governing as often cited on here with outbreaks of violence and oppression of other viewpoints.

As stated, don't tar all with the same brush, as much as some right whingers are incable of coming up with logical arguments and so resort to fisty cuffs, so do some of the liberal (and apparently not so weak wristed) lefties. Violence should not be condoned on either side in my opinion.
the suppression of opposing viewpoints is the weapon of those who fear the truth







the biggest scumbag lives at number 10



























DTH
joggerjayne,

It was a retort to the question. Not to you. You make a valid point, by the way.
Lucy Thomas

The reason you won't try and back yourself up is because...

...hang on - I just want to say that I try wherever possible, to avoid personal insults...let me just say that I do this simply because you have irritated me.

Lucy - you are a simple person who I assume finds the plot ot Shrek difficult to follow without a written synopsis.

Not only are your views on race simplistic, but you take the time out of your day to tire us with your primary school analysis of subjects which are light years beyond your understanding.

I'm always happy to debate anyone on issues of race and immigration, but I can't with you because you are simply irritating and dull.

You may if you wish, post a response to this, and I welcome it, but you will notice that I won't be bothered to respond. That would be like chasing after a fly which had buzzed near me to remonstrate against it's flying ability.

One last thing...read more books....and for your information, Heat magazine ain't a book.
By the way who decides who is left and who is right?


And stop cursing all at number 10................................

My house number is 10 as well and I am not a bad person after all.

I wonder if it is Downing Street or Drowning street. Looking at the current situation of the country latter one seems better.
You should write for Rory Bremner.
Sounds more like Ben Elton to me.
CD

People will soon stop bashing when they clock that New Cross has gotten too expensive.

Peckham will be the next South London area to sudden go all 'chi-chi'. It happened to Brixton about ten years ago.
It's already happening... They turned one of my primary schools in to posh flats and I'm finding it very difficult to find a cheap one bedroom place to rent round there. Damn yuppies, it's the 1980's all over again!

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