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The Left show their true self.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-104599 1/Anti-facist-protesters-clash-riot-police-out side-BNP-festival.html
Another example of how nasty and violent the Left can be.
They are not great supporters of free speech also.
Another example of how nasty and violent the Left can be.
They are not great supporters of free speech also.
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If I remember rightly, I once heard a BNP councillor saying that all people that weren't British, meaning their families originated from other countries, should be sent back to their 'home' countries. I pmsl at this!!!
how far back would you have to go to make you a legitimate Briton? On this point the BNP fail to see that people have been moving between countries since God was a boy.
I don't know alot about this party, but I'm not impressed with them and they do seem to be white supremists. Have they ever said anything explicitly racist?
how far back would you have to go to make you a legitimate Briton? On this point the BNP fail to see that people have been moving between countries since God was a boy.
I don't know alot about this party, but I'm not impressed with them and they do seem to be white supremists. Have they ever said anything explicitly racist?
Is it not the case that allowing people like the BNP to hold rallies, and to publicise their views, enables the rest of us, normal people, to see how unpleasant they are?
Sadly, the people who oppose them have historically shot themselves in the foot ...
For so many years, the Left referred to Margaret Thatcher as a "Fascist". Now, when someone with real fascist tendencies comes along, the Left shout "Fascist", and we all think "Yeah, yeah, probably just another vaguely right of centre party with whom the Left disagrees".
Sadly, there has been too much crying wolf. By referring to so many centre right movements as "Fascist", when a real fascist comes along, the word is not scary any more.
Sadly, the people who oppose them have historically shot themselves in the foot ...
For so many years, the Left referred to Margaret Thatcher as a "Fascist". Now, when someone with real fascist tendencies comes along, the Left shout "Fascist", and we all think "Yeah, yeah, probably just another vaguely right of centre party with whom the Left disagrees".
Sadly, there has been too much crying wolf. By referring to so many centre right movements as "Fascist", when a real fascist comes along, the word is not scary any more.
Ah, the freedom of speech argument. Why do people get it so so wrong?
If person A slams the views of person B, he's not curtailing person B's freedom of speech. He's exercising his own.
Sadly, though, when you tell someone that their views are racist or fascist or just wrong, they often lack the wherewithal to mount a counter-argument. So they bleat that they're being repressed.
The BNP held a festival. The anti-fascists held a protest. The police got involved and it all got a bit shirty. Christ, is that it?
If person A slams the views of person B, he's not curtailing person B's freedom of speech. He's exercising his own.
Sadly, though, when you tell someone that their views are racist or fascist or just wrong, they often lack the wherewithal to mount a counter-argument. So they bleat that they're being repressed.
The BNP held a festival. The anti-fascists held a protest. The police got involved and it all got a bit shirty. Christ, is that it?
Lucy Thomas
You need to understand that my posts are normally within the context of threads about race.
Do you think it would be best if black people just hushed up and didn't get involved with any discussion on race?
Seriously. Is that what would be best?
Do you think that perhaps I might have a valid point of view to express?
Maybe you as (I assume) a white woman have a much keener insight on race issues...rather than someone who grew up in South London and knows the issue of race first hand.
You need to understand that my posts are normally within the context of threads about race.
Do you think it would be best if black people just hushed up and didn't get involved with any discussion on race?
Seriously. Is that what would be best?
Do you think that perhaps I might have a valid point of view to express?
Maybe you as (I assume) a white woman have a much keener insight on race issues...rather than someone who grew up in South London and knows the issue of race first hand.
Was that a response to mine, Quinlad?
If so, I wonder if you may have misinterpreted the point?
In your example, I agree that person A should have a similar freedom.
But instead of "slamming" the views of person B, person A says "I disagree with you, and therefore I wish to prevent you from speaking at all" ... person B drives person A underground.
How then do we know what person A's true colours really are?
How do we know that we must avoid electing person A?
If so, I wonder if you may have misinterpreted the point?
In your example, I agree that person A should have a similar freedom.
But instead of "slamming" the views of person B, person A says "I disagree with you, and therefore I wish to prevent you from speaking at all" ... person B drives person A underground.
How then do we know what person A's true colours really are?
How do we know that we must avoid electing person A?
Lucy Thomas
It occurs to me that you've just made something up.
You said that most of my posts are all about how hard life is for black people.
I'm off to lunch now, and whilst I'm gone I challenge you to find ten posts from me where I've complained about life for black people.
If you can find ten posts, I will donate �10 to a charity of your choice.
Believe me, I will do this. I think I had a bet with Oneyedvic in the past where I lost and coughed up.
The only proviso is that I won't donate money to the BNP or UKIP.
It occurs to me that you've just made something up.
You said that most of my posts are all about how hard life is for black people.
I'm off to lunch now, and whilst I'm gone I challenge you to find ten posts from me where I've complained about life for black people.
If you can find ten posts, I will donate �10 to a charity of your choice.
Believe me, I will do this. I think I had a bet with Oneyedvic in the past where I lost and coughed up.
The only proviso is that I won't donate money to the BNP or UKIP.
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Hey... Enough with the Peckham bashing, I happen to like living around there strange as that may seem! ;0P
I tend to agree with Quin's analysis of the situation. Plus I find it hard to unite the liberal lefties notorious limp wrists and weak governing as often cited on here with outbreaks of violence and oppression of other viewpoints.
As stated, don't tar all with the same brush, as much as some right whingers are incable of coming up with logical arguments and so resort to fisty cuffs, so do some of the liberal (and apparently not so weak wristed) lefties. Violence should not be condoned on either side in my opinion.
I tend to agree with Quin's analysis of the situation. Plus I find it hard to unite the liberal lefties notorious limp wrists and weak governing as often cited on here with outbreaks of violence and oppression of other viewpoints.
As stated, don't tar all with the same brush, as much as some right whingers are incable of coming up with logical arguments and so resort to fisty cuffs, so do some of the liberal (and apparently not so weak wristed) lefties. Violence should not be condoned on either side in my opinion.
Lucy Thomas
The reason you won't try and back yourself up is because...
...hang on - I just want to say that I try wherever possible, to avoid personal insults...let me just say that I do this simply because you have irritated me.
Lucy - you are a simple person who I assume finds the plot ot Shrek difficult to follow without a written synopsis.
Not only are your views on race simplistic, but you take the time out of your day to tire us with your primary school analysis of subjects which are light years beyond your understanding.
I'm always happy to debate anyone on issues of race and immigration, but I can't with you because you are simply irritating and dull.
You may if you wish, post a response to this, and I welcome it, but you will notice that I won't be bothered to respond. That would be like chasing after a fly which had buzzed near me to remonstrate against it's flying ability.
One last thing...read more books....and for your information, Heat magazine ain't a book.
The reason you won't try and back yourself up is because...
...hang on - I just want to say that I try wherever possible, to avoid personal insults...let me just say that I do this simply because you have irritated me.
Lucy - you are a simple person who I assume finds the plot ot Shrek difficult to follow without a written synopsis.
Not only are your views on race simplistic, but you take the time out of your day to tire us with your primary school analysis of subjects which are light years beyond your understanding.
I'm always happy to debate anyone on issues of race and immigration, but I can't with you because you are simply irritating and dull.
You may if you wish, post a response to this, and I welcome it, but you will notice that I won't be bothered to respond. That would be like chasing after a fly which had buzzed near me to remonstrate against it's flying ability.
One last thing...read more books....and for your information, Heat magazine ain't a book.
By the way who decides who is left and who is right?
And stop cursing all at number 10................................
My house number is 10 as well and I am not a bad person after all.
I wonder if it is Downing Street or Drowning street. Looking at the current situation of the country latter one seems better.
And stop cursing all at number 10................................
My house number is 10 as well and I am not a bad person after all.
I wonder if it is Downing Street or Drowning street. Looking at the current situation of the country latter one seems better.
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