The Left show their true self.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-104599 1/Anti-facist-protesters-clash-riot-police-out side-BNP-festival.html

Another example of how nasty and violent the Left can be.

They are not great supporters of free speech also.

[jno]

ah, it's just like the old days of the leva fascista under Mussolini, Newsdesk...

[Oneeyedvic]

So 40 protesters are the voice of the left?

On that basis, I guess you don't mind being compared to Hitler then - he was right wing after all.

[anotheoldgit]

oneeyedvic

Earlier, some 700 demonstrators from Unite Against Fascism and the TUC and Unison unions took part in a rally in nearby Codnor

So 40 protesters are the voice of the left?

In this instance 'Yes' and doesn't that make it 740 in all?

On that basis, I guess you don't mind being compared to Hitler then - he was right wing after all.

I can not find your reasoning for this, but yes I do object to you compairing me with Hitler, he was an evil mass murderer.

Have I so rudely compared you personally with Joseph Stalin?

[Kromovaracun]

Would you object to comparison with Oswald Mosely or Benito Mussolini then?

Both of the above had followings far greater than 740, so if your logic is followed it would be perfectly legitimate.

AOG, there's something I need to address:

I have to say, you seem to generalise ferociously on 'left' and 'right' political thinking. You can't take one group as representative of the whole in either case (which I think is the point OEV and I are making).

'Right-Wing' for instance encompasses:

Thatcherism
Authoritarianism
Conservatism (which includes loads of things)
Laissez-Faire Capitalism
Objectivism
Fascism

Elements of all the above overlap with each other, but you can't seriously take the views or actions of even the majority of one of those groups as representative of 'right-wing'.

Exactly the same applies for the Left, by which we might include:

Socialism [Including Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism]
Communism
Anarchism
Libertarianism
Marxism

And all of the above are just broad ideologies - they don't take into account stances on individual issues. For instance you could be Left on gay rights but Right on the economy.

[sp1814]

Kromovaracun

Killer answer.

Absolutely spot on.

[sp1814]

Everything within the law should be done to drown out the filth which spews from the mouths of the BNP, who are a white supremacist movement.

I wonder if blacks and Asians are permitted to attend this 'festival' in the same way that whites are welcomed to the Notting Hill carnival

But then again, the Daily Mail was a famous supporter of the Black Shirts during the second world war. Makes sense that the paper would feel aggrieved that the poor peace-loving gentle folk of the BNP.

I only hope the BNP members weren't too traumatised...I'd hate to think that anyone would be kept from intimidating black people and spreading lies about immigrants.

Filth.

[jno]

in fairness, sp1814, the Mail's support (Hurrah for the Black Shirts!) came before the war; they were as pro-British as anyone once it got started.

[Oneeyedvic]

AOG - Earlier 700 people demonstrated - or is demonstrating now illegal? There is a difference between a demonstration and not allowing free speech. In fact, isn't the whole point of demonstrating voicing free speech?

40 People clashed with the police - illegally.

I have no issue with people demonstrating - do you?

Krom has put the rest of the argument far more eloquently than I.

[kev1]

AOG, the BNP are extreme RIGHT wingers not left wingers, for gods sake stop reading the beano a.k.a. daily mail and step up the intellect ladder to the daily sport

[Lucy Thomas]

sp1814 wrote:

I wonder if blacks and Asians are permitted to attend this 'festival'

Why don't you go there and find out.

And while you're at it, take that chip off your shoulder.

[tranmerekid]

biggest load of scum you are ever likely to meet








LIVES AT NUMBER 10


















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[jake-the-peg]

Really?

Has the inhabitant of No. 10 smashed a bottle in someone's face. BNP Councillor Luke Smith did

How about getting convicted for attacking his wife? BNP Councillor Brian Turner

Ruichard Mulhall - benefif fraud

And there's a long list of councillors who haven't showed up, spoken or really even understood

http://libcom.org/news/article.php/rubbish-bnp -councillors-100406

No chips on shoulders nor rose coloured spectacles on noses either.

[sp1814]

Lucy Thomas

I'm really sorry. I forgot that black people having an opinion is the equivalent of having a chip on our shoulder.

Why not attempt to write something which adds to the debate rather than indulging in asinine rebuttals which have little or no worth.

[tranmerekid]

jake-the-peg
Mon 18/08/08
08:57 Really?


what maggie left ?

brown has finished off ?

not much left to go to china ?













as i said biggest scumbag








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[joggerjayne]

The Left show their true selves

The Left shows its true self

[Lucy Thomas]

sp1814.

The majority of your posts seem to be concerned with how bad things are for black people and what a raw deal they get. Try being white and middle class then you'll really see how much the establishment hates you.

Change the record.

[jake-the-peg]

You know Tranmere kid you might make more sence with less white space.

But I doubt it

Oh Lucy all the poor middle class white people living in comfortable semi-detached suburban houses,.

I bet you'd love to cash it all in for a council flat in Peckham.

What percentage of the management of major companies do you think is black.

The police?, Judges? Who was the last black cabinet minister?

The establishment *IS* white! Power is almost exclusively held by white people in this country.

[RevFunk]

I agree with Lucy

For once lol

If the BNP are a political party and not a banned or illegal organisation then surely they are allowed to hold a rally, meeting whatever you want to call it.