What is going on with Britain

[carron81]

Hi

I could hardly watch the news tonight about the poor wee boy that died in soo much pain

Now I've just read the Scottish news and kids threw a lit firwork into a pram of a sleeping baby when the mother had turned her back to deal with her other child, luckily in this case the mother was quick to act and got all the babies clothes off and the baby was fine

All thats in the news these days is stabbings, attacks, murders.

They should bring back hanging, these folk are getting away with murder. Theres just no punishment these days.

Its like well you've killed someone, off you go to jail get a nice room, computers, gym etc whilst the rest of us work hard and save for months just to get some of the things they get.

Look at the jails you get in places like Thailand, Mexico, etc. Just fling them in and let them fend for themselve and so what if our jails are over crowded, dont waste taxpayers money keeping them in luxuries

[Ice.Maiden]

Totally agree with you carron.

[blackalbino]

good point and yeah your right,and thats coming from an ex con! but the only thing when you treat criminals like that is when trying to apprehend them,because the already know how bad the prison is,they will do absolutely anything to get away,car jacking,kidnapping,murder etc...in effect it breeds a new type of super criminal that unless they're doing life.......will end up back on our streets!

[Ice.Maiden]

So...get rid of the really bad ones permanently.

[blackalbino]

YUP! your not wrong there ice!

[pastafreak]

I don't believe in the death penalty.....but I would love to see the stocks brought back.....or any public punishment that shames the criminal...as for any 'luxuries' in prison,they should have to earn it over months for even the smallest thing...i.e. 6weeks in the steaming laundry for 1hrs telly.

[Ice.Maiden]

Yep - for the "not so bad" ones. Those who've been out on killing sprees for the fun of it - termination.

[blackalbino]

criminal cleansing?

[pastafreak]

For too many of the truly evil ones,death means nothing....if it did-they would not do what they did........
they should suffer in this life...then they may WISH they were dead..

[Ice.Maiden]

Put it any way you wish. I agree with carron.
The kids that threw the firework into the pram should be horse whipped. They wouldn't do it again in a hurry.

[flobadob]

It's easy to get all riled up at such an awful story. The thing is you should watch out cos the way things are going, in a different section of society, in about 30 years or so we could all be under sharia law. I don't think any of us will like that.

[Ice.Maiden]

No, the harshness of some of their laws wouldn't suit those of us who're used to western methods of punishment, but there are times when I truly believe that capital punishment should be re-introduced., and this goes for those who fall into the "knife culture" category.

[carron81]

totally agree with goodbyegirl. if they cant fix the mess the country is in now then how on earth are they going to fix it by the time our wee ones are older

I remember thinking to myself before I fell pregnant. Would I really want to have kids with the way things are now these days where people are scared to walk down streets incase of being attacked and kids stabbing kids etc

its such a scary place to be living in now

[Ice.Maiden]

I think many parents-to-be go through feeling that, carron. You just have to hope that somewhere, there are someone's kids who're going to make a difference tot eh world - and there will be.

[trt]

I agree with most of the posters here, and as long as we have to put up with all this human rights crap, things wont change.

I know a Guy who last week refused to do 200 hours community service for continuous driving offensives and was given 4 months in jail, out in 2.
He said it was better because he had 3 meals a day, a TV, gym, library and Internet.

[carron81]

agree with ice.maiden.

theres nothing at school these days either to teach kids right from wrong

things weren't to bad when i was at school but you could see attitude starting to happen and kids answereing back or squaring up to teachers (and those kids i have heard ended up in jail). i'm sure a few whips of the belt would have sorted them out.

[carron81]

my friend was telling me tonight - don't know how true this is- but if they have a mortgage and your in jail that gets paid also

[Ice.Maiden]

I think that, first and forremost, it's the parents who should drill manners and respect into their children, and then schools should continue with it, by means of being far stricter than they have been.
The government could do their bit, by passing laws to fit the crimes, and by basically going back to good old-fashioned methods of teaching. It's a subject which could be debated forever, but also, the pressure to be surrounded with material goods, means that in many cases, both parents are out at work, leaving little time or energy to be bothered with what their children are getting up to in their absence.