Thatcher's golliwog comment...

[spacechimp]

Why is everyone condemning her as racist, when nobody knows which player she was talking about and therefore whether the player does in fact bear resemblance to a golliwog?

[craft1948]

I didn't think you could buy them anymore

[daniela31]

Buy them here...............

http://www.miss-bargain.com/search/keyword/gol liwog/subid/6-08070815280

[Booldawg]

Surely werent Golliwog dolls intended to physically represent native Africans? This being the case I'm sure that a few people of that genetic persuasion would look like Golliwog dolls - regardless of the racist connotations attached to the dolls themselves.

Once again naivety is used to stoke the PC fire and another scapegoat is created.

[daniela31]

one on e-bay...................

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gollies--Golliwog-Small_ W0QQitemZ360128152945QQcmdZViewItem

[Richard1966]

The former popular children's toy is based on a insulting racial stereotype of how 1950s america portrayed black people on tv and stage by having white actors black up as minstrels. The toy is an insult and the word is an insult.

To say someone looks like a golliwog doll is say they are the image of an insulting racial stereotype.

I usually stay away from these sorry of argument here on AB but that fact that Carol Thatcher has used this and is I hope to be sanctioned for it has again in my opinion shown the environment in which she was raised and therefore the underlying attitudes of someone who ran the country

[Gormless]

Do you think she should be fined lots and lots of money and give it to black people?

[daniela31]

So really what you are saying Richard is that it's Margaret Thatcher you have the problem with and not her Daughter?

[Ethel]

The 'golliwog' character was invented around 1890 in a book by Florence Upton, not in the 1950s.

[Gromit]

Mr childs is perfectly entitled to complain about the language used by a fellow journalist. If she was swearing or using unacceptable terms in private then people who work with her do not have to turn a deaf ear as their are rules in her contract of employment against such actions.

For someone whose trade is a journalist, then to be so sloppy with words demonstrates she was not very good at her job.

Apparently she was not a popular member of the team and had been foisteded on them. The reports also hint that she had quite a lot to drink when this word was used.

Anyhow, she has now been dropped from the show. Maybe she has dementia like her mother?

[Gormless]

Just another Maggie Thatcher bash.

[daniela31]

Gromit, does alcohol really bring on early dementia.............?

[Ethel]

Chiles, not Childs.

[spacechimp]

OK, Richard, continue to miss the point.

The golliwog is a stereotype, and racial stereotyping is generalizing an ethnic group into one form (� la golliwog) but to say that ONE person resembles the stereotype of their ethnic group, is not, in and of itself racist.

[daniela31]

I have just thrown half a bottle of wine down the sink

[Gormless]

Ooooh it's on Channel 4 News!! I can see loads of lawsuits claiming loads and loads of damages by black people because of wrongful hurt and similar stuff.

[Ethel]

I am old.

I had golliwogs as a child and loved them dearly. I collected all the golliwogs from the jam and have a collection of golliwog badges and golliwog figures. I feel a lot of affection for my golliwogs and have happy memories of playing with the golliwogs as a child. I have my gollies on display and everyone loves them - regardless of the colour of their skin. Many black people have been to my home, and none have objected - some have wanted to buy them off me.

As an adult I watched the Clangers and loved them, too. To me, a golliwog is no more representative of a class of people than a clanger.

I would never say a particular person looked like a golliwog or a barbie doll, or a clanger for that matter. They simply don't.

As a child I loved these books and still have some - they are fantastic stories. Should I burn them?

http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/sambo.htm

[Gromit]

Daniela31

Strange behaviour like that is how it starts - you're supposed to drink it. I did not say dementia and alcohol consumption were related.

[Gromit]

Ms Thatcher's tipple is not wine, she is an avid imbiber of Newcstle Brown Ale.

[daniela31]

Joke Gromit!

see how easily these things can get out of hand?

someone makes a joke and hey presto................lawsuit!!