Ladies - Are You Ready For Winter?
Body & Soul1 min ago
Time to slap another fiver on a pack of snout?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8086142.stm
It seems the direct cost of smoking to the NHS is now �5bn, not to mention the indirect costs not just to the NHS, which are huge! Personally I'd slap a fiver straight on, I mean anyone stupid enough to be smoking still must be totally hooked so reel em in.
As usual a Blue Geezer badge to the first person to raise the usual irrelevant but diversionary subject!
It seems the direct cost of smoking to the NHS is now �5bn, not to mention the indirect costs not just to the NHS, which are huge! Personally I'd slap a fiver straight on, I mean anyone stupid enough to be smoking still must be totally hooked so reel em in.
As usual a Blue Geezer badge to the first person to raise the usual irrelevant but diversionary subject!
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Are there not other financial benefits from smoking? Because the smoker dies at an earlier age state pensions and benefits are greatly reduced.
Working along these lines we could encourage the extra takeup of alcohol for those attending clinics. Also the denial of hospital treatment to those over 65 and issue placebos instead of real drugs.
The end result wiill be a fit healthy population that neither drink or smoke.
Working along these lines we could encourage the extra takeup of alcohol for those attending clinics. Also the denial of hospital treatment to those over 65 and issue placebos instead of real drugs.
The end result wiill be a fit healthy population that neither drink or smoke.
bet squad would like to tax the fat people more
http://www.24dash.com/news/Health/2009-04-09-N HS-trusts-count-rising-cost-of-obesity-treatme nt
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well we seem to have turned this into a debate on self inflicted heath problems and whether they should be covered on the NHS, I'll take some responsibility as it was the newly research cost that induced my question. However just about anything could be ruled out on the self inflicted basis, I mean I've been to hospital for Rugger injuries should we ban sportsman? etc etc
So really I'm just saying that given we have this cash cow of weak people who are adicted to 500+ carcinogens that blight all Our lives with their foul smelling habit, should we not make the most of it and tax them more.
Can someone tell me why smokers are incapable of using a bin? Where I work there is a charming Bijou smoking emporium with huge bin and yet fag buts litter the area!
So really I'm just saying that given we have this cash cow of weak people who are adicted to 500+ carcinogens that blight all Our lives with their foul smelling habit, should we not make the most of it and tax them more.
Can someone tell me why smokers are incapable of using a bin? Where I work there is a charming Bijou smoking emporium with huge bin and yet fag buts litter the area!
No one goes out mugging old ladies for the price of a packet of Fags ! You should direct your anger at the low life who peddle Heroin and other S**t, thus destroying the lives of countless . People get so hooked on this C**p they will do anything for the price of a 'Fix'.
Many Pubs have gone out of business because of this Smoking Ban ! Did the Public have a free vote on whether to ban Smoking or not, certainly not. Those of us who smoke should have the choice. I smoke and it is my choice. If I die of Lung Cancer then it's probably my fault.
Maybe you should change your User name to Hitler as we are continually getting bashed over the head by Dictators!!!
Many Pubs have gone out of business because of this Smoking Ban ! Did the Public have a free vote on whether to ban Smoking or not, certainly not. Those of us who smoke should have the choice. I smoke and it is my choice. If I die of Lung Cancer then it's probably my fault.
Maybe you should change your User name to Hitler as we are continually getting bashed over the head by Dictators!!!
roc1200 agree
however furhter to the poster r1geezer the oposite course of action should apply and a fiver taken off the tax on fags to encourage more people to start smoking
the single biggest forthcoming problem to our society is providing for old people who hang around well past their useful lifetime and the care costs and pension costs associated with an ageing population
as the song goes "who wants to live forever?"
i would rather die younger of a coughing fit than suffer the hideous indignity of feeble incapacity and having to rely on someone else to wipe my backside
however furhter to the poster r1geezer the oposite course of action should apply and a fiver taken off the tax on fags to encourage more people to start smoking
the single biggest forthcoming problem to our society is providing for old people who hang around well past their useful lifetime and the care costs and pension costs associated with an ageing population
as the song goes "who wants to live forever?"
i would rather die younger of a coughing fit than suffer the hideous indignity of feeble incapacity and having to rely on someone else to wipe my backside
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Damn - I'm late to this thread so I think I've lost out on the Blue Geezer badge as someone has already mentioned the lard arses.
Smokers are net contributors - lard buckets are not.
But lard arses don't inflict their disgusting habit on others I hear you shout...true, to a degree, but speaking as someone who suffered a flight to Grand Cayman sitting next to a grotesque, smelly, sweaty, heavy breathing ton of blubber, there are times when their disgusting habit does affect other people.
Fat people are lazy - and before somebody nasally whines about fat people with glandular problems, I accept there are always exceptions to the rule - and as their laziness often manifests itself by the purchase of kilos of lard and sugar water from Greggs, KFC, McCrappy and the like, why not have a punitive fast food tax?
Smokers have a punitive smoking tax, drinkers have a heavy tax burden, drivers are taxed to the hilt, so why not have a fat barsteward tax?
Smokers are net contributors - lard buckets are not.
But lard arses don't inflict their disgusting habit on others I hear you shout...true, to a degree, but speaking as someone who suffered a flight to Grand Cayman sitting next to a grotesque, smelly, sweaty, heavy breathing ton of blubber, there are times when their disgusting habit does affect other people.
Fat people are lazy - and before somebody nasally whines about fat people with glandular problems, I accept there are always exceptions to the rule - and as their laziness often manifests itself by the purchase of kilos of lard and sugar water from Greggs, KFC, McCrappy and the like, why not have a punitive fast food tax?
Smokers have a punitive smoking tax, drinkers have a heavy tax burden, drivers are taxed to the hilt, so why not have a fat barsteward tax?
Squad
I'll see if I can find it again it was a few years back but they have a research group up there looking at health and public policy.
The point of the matter is, as I said that smokers use a lot of health service resources at a younger age due due cancer, heart attacks etc.
However we all get old and die and those of us that don't smoke tend to suffer from diseases of the old age like Parkinsons and other cancers.
Incidence of things like this is lower in smokers because many of them don't live long enough
The cost of treating people with these conditions has to be taken into account.
I'll see if I can find it again it was a few years back but they have a research group up there looking at health and public policy.
The point of the matter is, as I said that smokers use a lot of health service resources at a younger age due due cancer, heart attacks etc.
However we all get old and die and those of us that don't smoke tend to suffer from diseases of the old age like Parkinsons and other cancers.
Incidence of things like this is lower in smokers because many of them don't live long enough
The cost of treating people with these conditions has to be taken into account.
Geezer - I'm really interested that you are thinking like this.
It's the principle of modifying people's behavior through punative taxation or fines.
Like high taxation on petrol to get people onto public transport or to buy smaller cars
Or dare I suggest it Speed Cameras
I rather imagined you disagreed with that on principal - it seems it's not principal but just individual cases?
It's the principle of modifying people's behavior through punative taxation or fines.
Like high taxation on petrol to get people onto public transport or to buy smaller cars
Or dare I suggest it Speed Cameras
I rather imagined you disagreed with that on principal - it seems it's not principal but just individual cases?
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