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So how long before they start ritual beheadings and stonings? should local councils create proper punishment areas, or could ritual floggings become public entertainment? I mean half time at the football could do with livening up! Ok it's the daily Mail, but is the figure wrong? I don't think so! Anyway lefties you have my permission to spit out your organic peace muesli!
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whifffey
Islam forbids alcohol. Carry on making me look stupid, then check out what Islam is about.
I take it you have never heard of RAKI not only do muslims drink copious amounts of the stuff, they actually make it.
Your ignorance of muslims is astounding.
Islam forbids alcohol. Carry on making me look stupid, then check out what Islam is about.
I take it you have never heard of RAKI not only do muslims drink copious amounts of the stuff, they actually make it.
Your ignorance of muslims is astounding.
i am a muslim and i agree sp1814 that all muslims do believe all the principles in Quran,but most don't really follow them.
aND BIRDIE true that Hazrat Aisha married the hol Prophet when she was 9 but she started living with him when she was 11.And remember birdie this marriage took place long back you don't know the circumstances and maybe,at that time a man marrying a 9 year old girl was not considered strange and this marriage was not forced upon Aisha.In todays world you won't see a single muslim doing that.
aND BIRDIE true that Hazrat Aisha married the hol Prophet when she was 9 but she started living with him when she was 11.And remember birdie this marriage took place long back you don't know the circumstances and maybe,at that time a man marrying a 9 year old girl was not considered strange and this marriage was not forced upon Aisha.In todays world you won't see a single muslim doing that.
Oh - I am so glad to see my little birdie yet once again telling half truth, twisted words and long posts. It may confuse few but as I said before, many would look into Islam more positively due to your posts and find out truth about Islam. After all we all know what happened in this world since 9/11.
More propaganda against Islam = More people looking into Islam and converting to Islam.
So carry on my dear friend you have no idea how good a job you are doing.
By the way you still owe me one answer. According to you every Muslim's mission is to kill all non Muslims. With 1.8 billion Muslims in this world trying to kill non believers how have you managed to survive so far?
More propaganda against Islam = More people looking into Islam and converting to Islam.
So carry on my dear friend you have no idea how good a job you are doing.
By the way you still owe me one answer. According to you every Muslim's mission is to kill all non Muslims. With 1.8 billion Muslims in this world trying to kill non believers how have you managed to survive so far?
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i am a girl birdie and very contended with m religion.
i can debate with you on this topic for hours but i see it going nowhere.i don't know how you come up with these many links,are these something you have researched or somebody else gives them to you?
and about the links you posted about the Quranic verses,where were they ?.i couldn't find them.
i can debate with you on this topic for hours but i see it going nowhere.i don't know how you come up with these many links,are these something you have researched or somebody else gives them to you?
and about the links you posted about the Quranic verses,where were they ?.i couldn't find them.
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My little birdie- What did I say �You twist the words� and as long as you will keep on doing that, you will come across me.
Now let�s see what you said,
None of your links seems to work, then I am not sure what University of Virginia will tell you about Quran. But I will give you same verses from a reputable interpreter,
Quran 47:4. Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah.s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.
When 313 unarmed people are in the battlefield up against1000 very well equipped then you need this sort of words for uplifting your morale. If you do not know history of Islam then at least find out what Churchill said before going into war against Hitler�s Germany.
Now let�s see what you said,
None of your links seems to work, then I am not sure what University of Virginia will tell you about Quran. But I will give you same verses from a reputable interpreter,
Quran 47:4. Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah.s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.
When 313 unarmed people are in the battlefield up against1000 very well equipped then you need this sort of words for uplifting your morale. If you do not know history of Islam then at least find out what Churchill said before going into war against Hitler�s Germany.
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Quran 2:191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
I do wish you had looked at one verse before that and two after, but of course you were picking and choosing so I will help you. So here is one before that.
Quran 2:190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
And two after,
Quran 2:192. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
Clearly your third Link (Verse) is about War time too.
Now let�s go further and see what else you said.
birdie1971
Wed 01/07/09
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Secondly, I have stated many, many times that I do NOT believe that all Muslims want to murder non-Muslims. Does that make Islam harmless? No it does not.
Quran 2:191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
I do wish you had looked at one verse before that and two after, but of course you were picking and choosing so I will help you. So here is one before that.
Quran 2:190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
And two after,
Quran 2:192. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
Clearly your third Link (Verse) is about War time too.
Now let�s go further and see what else you said.
birdie1971
Wed 01/07/09
00:58 Continued....
Secondly, I have stated many, many times that I do NOT believe that all Muslims want to murder non-Muslims. Does that make Islam harmless? No it does not.
