FIREARMS OFFENCES

[chas2008]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212048/Teenager-jailed-attacking-15-year-old-boys-filming-torture-video-mobile.html

So what ever happened to the 5 year mandatory sentence for possession of a firearm ??? or doesnt a shotgun count ??

[Gromit]

There is a different rule for shotguns.

1968 Firearms Act

The Act did not require the registration of shotguns, only licensing.] Also, while applicants for firearms certificates had to show a good reason for possessing the weapon or ammunition, this did not apply to shotgun certification.

[jake-the-peg]

It also doesn't apply to jeuveniles - I think it's 3 years minimum there

[chas2008]

i thought being altered to sawn off changed the status considerably , forgetting about the above story it is still rare that the 5 year mininum is applied ...

[jake-the-peg]

And your reason for stating that is what?

[jake-the-peg]

I thought you might have referred do data such as this showing that far from it being rare in fact the vast majority are.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2009-07-20c.285759.h />
You've not been believing what you read in the papers have you?

Doh!

[chas2008]

cant open that link jake...

http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/media-centre/crime-in-the-news/march-2008--crime-in-the-news/gun-crime-sentences-criticised

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562409/Mandatory-gun-crime-sentences-not-being-imposed.html
hardly a deterent for the increasing gun crime

[Gromit]

Jake's link again

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2009-07-20c.285759.h

[jake-the-peg]

Well if you will read the Telegraph!!!

Check out the actual data - I've compressed the URL

http://tinyurl.com/lztf6e

So for example in 2007 of adults receiving an immediate sentence for firearms offences 82% received the minimum.

I'm also rather touched by your faith in the deterrant effect - deterrance is useless if people don't think they will be caught.

The US has the ultimate deterrant for murder and a staggering murder rate.

[BertiWooster]

Sorry to butt in here - but whenever I see a discussion about shotguns , it always brings to mind that episode in only fool and horses where Rodney meets girl in the market . He gets invited to her fathers country estate . They are out for a days shooting , and delboy turns up uninvited , packing a sawn off shotgun .
Classic

[ABerrant]

It is not the case that a shotgun is not classed as a "firearm" but that smoothbore firearms (such as shotguns) over a specified barrel length are treated differently within the legislation(s).

[kinell]

berty

it was a classic but it was not a sawn-off, it was a pump action

that would be even more frowned upon by the country set

mange tout!

[BertiWooster]

My mistake.

Thanks for the correction , Dave .