Governments latest smoke stop approach....

[R1Geezer]

I see the government are going for the children tugging at heart strings approach to try and get people to give up smoking. Is this futile given that smokers don't care about their own health or even their own children and think that they are doing no harm? How many times have you seen a "Baby on Board" type car with baby in car seat, windows shut and mummy and daddy gassing their own kids? Gawd knows how much the children get gassed at home too. BGB chances are good for this question!

[Ankou]

personally i would rather the money gained from the taxes on the cancer sticks was put to better use than lining the advertising execs pockets. but if the idea is to spend a penny to save a pound, then what the hell.

[socket2008]

People smoking less generally now is the reason why certain taxes have been introduced. HMRC's biggest earner has always been alcohol and tobacco taxes. Reduce that by binge drinking and stop smoking campaigns and it means the whole country ultimately pays for the shortfall in taxes.

As for the above story, won't make any difference. I know people that smoke around babies. If I have said anything, I am met with verbal abuse to 'mind your own'.

[stewey]

It is illegal in Ontario to be smoking in an automobile if there is a passenger in it under the age of 16.

[stewey]

http://www.mhp.gov.on...g_in_cars/default.asp

[craft1948]

I have been a smoker for nearly 50 years and never smoked around my child when she was little, and that was before it became non PC. If I have a cigarette in my car (I don't light up in other people's cars) I always have the window wide open.
I wouldn't dream of smoking in anyone else's house unless they were smokers and invited me to do so.
I don't believe in standing outside to have a cigarette so have never been to a pub since the smoking ban was introduced.
I'm never going to stop smoking whatever ads they put on the TV.........and as I've never claimed benefits in my entire life I've always paid for my own fags.
I don't think I'd smoke in a caravan though............

[rojash]

... and I'm still waiting for someone to send me a link to some definitive evidence as to the harmful effect of secondary smoking. There's less available and undisputed evidence of this than there is of man-made global warming, and yet there are many people willing to dispute the latter and blithely accept the former.

[karenmac60]

That's because non smokers don't want to put up with smoke - so they'll believe everything that allows them to have go at smokers, but they don't want to have to give up their gas guzzling cars, foreign holidays, power sapping mod cons and all the other things which contribute to global warming - so they refuse to believe the evidence that such a thing exists.

[sophie_1003]

rojash- it's not necessarily that it's harmful that annoys non-smokers it's the smell. Imagine a smell that you absolutely can't stand, so much so it makes you feel sick, now imagine being forced to sit in a car or stand at a bus stop with that smell, it's horrible and inconsiderate.

[vivandorron]

I am 77yrs of age and have smoked since I was evacuated to Llanpumpsaint during the so called 'second world war'. (there have been a few since.)

The government benefit from the taxes and don't really want us to give-up smoking. If the government is really serious about it's wishes then it should completely ban tobacco and put it on it's list of banned drugs. Then I will give-up the 'filthy habit' but not before.

I was a regular at my local pub, but have reached the stage where I refuse to go anywhere where smoking is prohibited; including my sister-in-law's house. Incidentally my wife is a non-smoker and is still in reasonable health; as I am. Furthermore, I feel that I am being quite fair, inasmuch as I will not smoke in the houses of friends who do not smoke ; but will only visit them on the understanding that I can 'light-up' if I want to.

[ELVIS68]

Since the smoking ban came in it doesn`t really bother me going outside to smoke when I`m in the pub and I won`t smoke in someone elses house if they don`t smoke, even if they say it is okay to

I don`t smoke indoors when the kids are up or smoke in the car if they are in there

When they ask about me giving up smoking I say I will when they give up sweets and chocolate, can`t say fairer than that

[R1Geezer]

rojash, you miss the point, non smokers couldn't give a rats ar5se about the effects of passive smoking we know there are worse things. It's the digusting smell and of course the even worse smell of smokers themselves even when they are not smoking. Imagine I went round your house and farted all the time, not bad for you particularly but unpleasant certainly, geddit? Elvis, eating sweets does not effect those around you, smoking does, smokers have brougfht this on themselves through decades of selfishly puffing away without a care for non smokers.

[Ankou]

craft my friend is a heavy smoker, stinks to high heavens, but its his choice to smoke and thats fine. when he last came round my house for a day he asked if he could smoke - i have 2 small kids - and i sad yes, but only outside the back/front door - it was a nice day anyway.

so that was fine, but as r1 says in his last sentence though even this he treated with selfish disregard. over the course of the day he must have smoked about 30 - 40 fags, as when he left i found all the butt ends on my patio, in my lawn, up the pathway and by the back door. the Little Bustard didn't even contemplate that this was rude and that it was his responsibility to dispose f them appropriately, or that my kids might pick these up and put them in their mouth. he will never be invited to my house again.

it is selfish careless smokers like this, that spoil it for you all.