Hoon/Hewitt betrayal

[youngmafbog]

So now a secret ballot has been requested to ascetain McBottles popularity.

Bet they are spitting feathers down No10, but looks like its loose/loose for Bottler. Difficult to see how you get out of somethign like this without some sort of collateal damage.

No doubt he will return to bullying again, comments from ABers ?

[Quizmonster]

You could well be right, Infund.

If YMB truly wanted a discussion, I think that closing this thread and opening a new one with the following question would be a good idea...

"Hoon/Hewitt...Backbench vote
A ballot of Labour backbenchers on the subject of party leadership has been requested by Geoff Hoon and Patricia Hewitt. Comments from ABers?"

That's totally neutral with no prejudiced overtones that I can see.

[Sqad]

Quizmonster....my complaint was that despite the fact that an interesting thread was impending, it was hijacked by individual animosity. Nothing more than that.

[ludwig]

QM, stop being so daft. Since when did the rules say questions had to be phrased in a completely objective and unbiased manner? Of course he's making an anti-Brown point, it's not exactly great detective work on your part to have gleaned that from the phrasing of the question. Everyone does the same on here irrespective of political allegiance as you well know.

[Gromit]

Hoon is embittered because he was told he was going to get a plum Euro job to shut him up, and then the b*stards quietly forgot to give it to him.

No "Big Hitter" came along, just as no BH came along after Purnell or the previous time.

These are just the old Blairites unhappy that they are no longer running the shop. It is incredibly disloyal, because it is designed to harm the Labour Party in the run up to the election.

[ludwig]

It is very disloyal. 'I didn't get the job I wanted so I'm going to do my best to shaft Brown - stuff the party and stuff the election'. There's been a steady stream of them trying to stick the knife in virtually since he ascended to the throne. What an incredibly unpopular man.

[Quizmonster]

No, Sqad, it wasn't "hijacked by individual animosity", it was ab initio "presented" in such a way, a fact that is perfectly plain. You cannot, surely, be contending that the 'question' lacks animosity...even Ludwig recognises that.

But what the hey! I'll leave it there.

[rov1200]

I'm amazed at how many of these sacked failed ex-ministers raise their heads above the parapet not to help their Labour Party but to inflict damage on the person that put them there. Maybe if they all got together they could form their own party of discontents and allow the Labour party its own reward.