A tale of two cities

[modeller]

Have you seen these pictures before before. ? I see similar scenes in my town.

http://www.locknload....010/4/24/4513056.html

[sandyRoe]

Do you live in Pakistan?

[modeller]

Good question ! No I don't , but even if I did it wouldn't change the two pictures.

[IggyB]

why am i looking at these pictures?
a picture of 12 people in dewsbury some of whom appear to be a family group, 4 people in the picture are wearing a veil. This is being compared to a picture of 6 people in lahore, none of whom are wearing a veil ...... whats the point?

[Coobeastie]

The Pakistan picture has 4 women with none of them wearing Burqas.The Dewsbury picture has 8 women with 3 of them wearing Burqas and one a Hijab. Hardly indicative of a trend for either location.

Apparently outside of the rural areas its quite common for women in Pakistan to not wear Burqas.

[thetruthhurts]

I could go out any time of day where I live (South East London) and give any one of these pictures. '5 white women' 5 white men' 5 women in burkas' '5 muslim women without burkas' 5 of any combination in fact. What is your point exactly?

[Gromit]

So we have a not typical photo of Dewbury and a not typical picture of Lahore. Is it supposed to prove something or just confirm your prejudices?

Typical Dewsbury
http://s0.geograph.or...8/230804_0dc4f981.jpg

typical Lahore
http://1.bp.blogspot....%2BPakistan..jpgANCan you spot the difference?

[modeller]

Have I expressed an opinion ? As usual you are jumping to the conclusion that I disapprove. The fact that I regularly see similar scenes indicates it is fairly normal. . Have you been to Lahore Gromit ? If not how can you say it is not typical ? You ask me what is the point ? You have answered the question yourselves. You now accept the fact that such Islaminisation of the SE and towns like Dewsbury is the norm, possibly more so than Muslim Lahore. That was the point .

[Gromit]

I accept nothing of the kind. I have not been to Lahore, but I have been to Dewsbury this year, and I can tell you first hand, that it has not been Islamified. You probably could find a burka clad woman, but they are greatly in the minority.

[modeller]

Gromit . So what qualifies you to comment on Lahore ?
I spent several years in the Arab world, I have several Pakistani friends and I have studied the Koran. So I think I can compare the two cultures dispassionately . Can you ?

[Gromit]

Modeller,

I have made no comment on Lahore other than to doubt the picture you have provided is a typical street scene. I am more intersted in challenging your untrue stTement that's Dewsbury has need Islamitised. I go there a lot, and while there is a Muslim community, it has not Islamitised the town.

[anotheoldgit]

Pity you haver not got a picture of a typical classroom in almost any school in Britain.

But you must have seen plenty on TV during the recent election campaign.

Don't try and tell us, that these are not typical.

[modeller]

Gromit you are wriggling you made a clear statement which you can not back up .
# a not typical picture of Lahore. Is it supposed to prove something or just confirm your prejudices? #

[jake-the-peg]

When were you last in a classroom AOG?

[anotheoldgit]

I have already pointed out one doesn't have to be in a class room personally.

TV cameras are constantly filming in British classrooms, or are these classrooms actually in Somalia, or Pakistan?

[jake-the-peg]

So you don't need to go to a classroom to know hat is typical and what is not you can watch TV?

That's the most riddiculous thing I think I've ever heard from you

You think TV crews go to representative schools? or schools that back up the story they want to tell?

[anotheoldgit]

One doesn't have to visit typical London's sites to know what they look like.

Buckingham Palace, The Mall, Trafalgar Square, St Paul's, The River Thames, Houses of Parliament, Tower of London.

Need I go on?

[anotheoldgit]

/// You think TV crews go to representative schools? or schools that back up the story they want to tell? ///

TV cameras go into classrooms for a number of reasons, a local school putting on a particular event, reporting on exam results, a new addition to a school building, etc, etc, they do not necessary have a particular axe to grind.

[sp1814]

What.....is.....the.....point....of.....this.
...thread?????

[naomi24]

Dunno sp - but AOG does talk some twaddle at times.

//Don't try and tell us, that these are not typical.//

They might be typical in areas with a high immigrant population, but in other areas - like the one I live in - they aren't typical. What nonsense!