Is this just a paper exercise? Peter sutcliffe

[MrIncredible]

http://news.sky.com/s...er_Be_Freed_From_Jail

it certainly has angered many sky readers this morning, but common sense say's that this man will never be released, and im sure he is just exercising his rights and going through the motions, probibly to relieve his boredom and get some attention.
I'm not saying its right for everyone but surely the death penalty for someone like this seems th fit the bill.

[jake-the-peg]

One of the cases where a whole life tarrif is recommended is:

murder of two or more persons, where each murder involves any of the following :

* a substantial degree of premeditation or planning,
* the abduction of the victim, or
* sexual or sadistic conduct,

Clearly he fits this bill and I can't think of a good reason to override this.

I rather suspect that certain elecments of the press are rather enjoying this whole affair

[jno]

jake, the papers' Scandalous Outrage Desks have been at something of a loss since Myra Hindley's death.

[R1Geezer]

"common sense" ?? - it aint that common mate!

[jake-the-peg]

Judge has just applied a whole life tarrif to his sentence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-10657290

Looks like the leader writers will be looking for other outrages to cimmon decency to highlight today

[anotheoldgit]

While I do not wish to support this monster in any way, and I believe criminals such as Peter Sutcliffe should be handed out the death penalty, I do believe he should not be treated any different to others who have committed equally heinous crimes.

If others can be granted a specific time that they must be incarcerated, or given the right to parole etc. then he should be treated no different under the law.

Yes he killed 13 women and injured others, but what about the IRA bombers they killed many, many more and they are now free after serving a very short time in prison?

[jake-the-peg]

That's pretty ridiculous

If I compared him to Soldiers who kiledl civillians in Iraq you'd rightly tell me that I was being stupid.

If you compare him to other full life tarrif cases

http://en.wikipedia.o...ers_with_life_tariffs

l think you should see that there is a common thread they are normally (although not exclusively) multiple murder events usually with a sexual context.

[R1Geezer]

no end date? surely that's a contravention of his ooman rights!

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

Your analogy does not work, were bomber crews during WW2, exactly the same as SS concentration guards in charge of the gas chambers, 'mass murders',

[andy-hughes]

I think Peter Sutcliffe - in common with almost all individuals incarcerated for a life term - with the exception of Ian Brady - must contemplate the possibility of freedom, however an unlikely scenario that may be.

For that reason, he is exercising his legal rights, as he is entitled so to do.

I never cease to be amazed by the number of people who are prepared to support a death penalty on the basis that keeping some criminals alive is a 'waste of tax payers' money'.

Are we really that callous as a society that we decide that a person's life is not worth preserving because of the financial cost? If you extend that argument, you run the risk of sliding down a seriously nasty slippery slope - don't keep old people in hpsital because it 'drains the NHS budget'. Don't put criminals in prison, let 'the people' have their 'justice' because it saves on the cost of trials.

Really people, is this the sort of society we want to live in?

Punishment by incarceration is just that - punishment by law. It may not be perfect, but the idea that people are to be executed to 'save money' leaves me cold.