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The ever growng threat of Islam.
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http://www.dailymail....ying-fears-Islam.html
Well at last Cameron has shown his true colours, the man is a disgrace to Britain, and the sooner his back-benches revolt and get rid of him the better.
/// Cameron will say that, by embracing the moderate Muslim nation, the EU can improve relations with the rest of the Islamic world.///
Who does he think he is kidding?
/// The Prime Minister will hit out at ‘protectionists’ who see Turkey as an ‘economic threat’ ///
That will be most of his Party then.
Brown opened the flood gates to Eastern European immigrants when most of Europe put a temporary block on them, and now we have Cameron welcoming in more from the Muslim faith.
If his support for Turkey to join the EU, becomes acceptable by the rest of Europe, who can then not say that this country will soon be ruled by Islam?
Well at last Cameron has shown his true colours, the man is a disgrace to Britain, and the sooner his back-benches revolt and get rid of him the better.
/// Cameron will say that, by embracing the moderate Muslim nation, the EU can improve relations with the rest of the Islamic world.///
Who does he think he is kidding?
/// The Prime Minister will hit out at ‘protectionists’ who see Turkey as an ‘economic threat’ ///
That will be most of his Party then.
Brown opened the flood gates to Eastern European immigrants when most of Europe put a temporary block on them, and now we have Cameron welcoming in more from the Muslim faith.
If his support for Turkey to join the EU, becomes acceptable by the rest of Europe, who can then not say that this country will soon be ruled by Islam?
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Blimey!
Didn't take long for some of the old tories to call for a change of Leader.
Dave may just be grandstanding as it's hard to see how Turkey are going to be accepted into europe anytime soon when they still have Human Rights issues and their invasion and occupation of Cyprus is still unresolved - particularly for the Greeks obviously!
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Didn't take long for some of the old tories to call for a change of Leader.
Dave may just be grandstanding as it's hard to see how Turkey are going to be accepted into europe anytime soon when they still have Human Rights issues and their invasion and occupation of Cyprus is still unresolved - particularly for the Greeks obviously!
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It's the return of the inaccurate scare mongering youtube video :) about time it was given an airing again.
http://www.snopes.com...gion/demographics.asp
http://www.snopes.com...gion/demographics.asp
It would be a great mistake for Europe to turn its back on Turkey. They have been pro west since Ataturk, and they are under threat from the more fundamentalist Islamic State to their east. If Turkey are rebuffed enough times and decide to align themselves with countries that are more pro-Islam, then creep of Islam towards Europe will be greater rather than less.
Though Islam is the predominant religion it Turkey, every since Atatturk, its secularism is written into the country's constitution.
Accepting Turkey into Europe would be a smart move in terms of our security. Turkey has proven itself to be a strong NATO ally.
Though Islam is the predominant religion it Turkey, every since Atatturk, its secularism is written into the country's constitution.
Accepting Turkey into Europe would be a smart move in terms of our security. Turkey has proven itself to be a strong NATO ally.
Zeuhl, I think the real problem with Cyprus is Greece rather than Turkey; the Turkish Cypriots voted to unify the island before joining the EU; the Greek Cypriots rejected it. The EU went ahead and let them join anyway, thus accepting partition of the island - a huge mistake, imo. And letting Greece itself join was not a great idea either, in retrospect. I like Greece, but they're bad neighbours.
jno
respect your answer but try telling that to the greek cypriot london cab driver i had a few months ago who had been on holiday to Cyprus and visited the village his family were driven out of and the house he had grown up in now occupied by a Turkish family. They invited him in and they still had his granny's furniture.
Not so funny is that one of his cousins disappeared in the invasion - believed killed or 'disappeared' back to Turkey.
I suspect this is still an open wound for many greeks.
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respect your answer but try telling that to the greek cypriot london cab driver i had a few months ago who had been on holiday to Cyprus and visited the village his family were driven out of and the house he had grown up in now occupied by a Turkish family. They invited him in and they still had his granny's furniture.
Not so funny is that one of his cousins disappeared in the invasion - believed killed or 'disappeared' back to Turkey.
I suspect this is still an open wound for many greeks.
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Zeuhl, yes, war and occupation will always leave scars. Those Turkish Cypriots who voted for reunification presumably did so in full knowledge that lots of reparations would be required from both sides, possibly including granny's furniture. (Some of them do blame Turkey rather than Greece for the impasse, too: they think it's the image of Ankara, rather than themselves, that's standing in the way of international acceptance.)
Historically, though, I find it very hard to blame the Turks for invading. as I recollect, Cyprus was run by Greek Cypriots like Makarios who wanted a united island, but they were ousted by Greek Cypriots who wanted union with Greece; the Turks invaded to counter what seemed a genuine and imminent threat.
Historically, though, I find it very hard to blame the Turks for invading. as I recollect, Cyprus was run by Greek Cypriots like Makarios who wanted a united island, but they were ousted by Greek Cypriots who wanted union with Greece; the Turks invaded to counter what seemed a genuine and imminent threat.
yes, that's always a problem, Zeuhl. To what extent can the wishes of a majority outrank the extremely strongly-held wishes of a large minority? I don't know. The pre-EU vote was simply on reunification with Turkish Cyprus, not with Greece itself - I've no idea what sentiment is on the latter subject, though I think the Greek Cypriot economy is rather stronger than the Greek one these days, so probably 'no dice'.
and no doubt all the leftie apologists who said 40 or so years ago that we would never reach 12% of the Uk being from some ethnic minority will also be saying dont worry we wont fill up with muslims.
they already number well over 1million and are breeding like rats, same as most ethnic communities, or should that be ethnic populations.
once turkey is allowed into the EU they will flood in here from all over the muslim world, that will be their gateway and bit by bit they will get their way more and more just as they do now, and before long they will be in more and more positions of power and start to take over.
utter madness
they already number well over 1million and are breeding like rats, same as most ethnic communities, or should that be ethnic populations.
once turkey is allowed into the EU they will flood in here from all over the muslim world, that will be their gateway and bit by bit they will get their way more and more just as they do now, and before long they will be in more and more positions of power and start to take over.
utter madness
///all the leftie apologists who said 40 or so years ago that we would never reach 12% of the Uk being from some ethnic minority///
I don't think anyone, leftie or otherwise, said that.
The one prediction from ///40 or so years ago/// that does seem to have not materialised is Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood'
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I don't think anyone, leftie or otherwise, said that.
The one prediction from ///40 or so years ago/// that does seem to have not materialised is Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood'
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Turkey has less chance of joining the EU today than it had 5 years ago because the ruling party is religious and have been undermining their secular constitution ever since they came to power.
Cameron is more pro EU than most of his party that's one reason he gets on so well with the Lib/Dems. Greece should not have been allowed to join the EU for both economic reasons and with the problem of Cyprus. I was in Cyprus during the troubles and my sympathies were with the Turks. They faced the problem of being taken over by the Greeks and seeing the Greek military in Cyprus and only a few miles from Turkey itself.
However the EU were determined to get Greece in come what may and have lived to regret it.
Greece no doubt will veto any attempt to get Turkey in so Cameron is wasting his time.
Cameron is more pro EU than most of his party that's one reason he gets on so well with the Lib/Dems. Greece should not have been allowed to join the EU for both economic reasons and with the problem of Cyprus. I was in Cyprus during the troubles and my sympathies were with the Turks. They faced the problem of being taken over by the Greeks and seeing the Greek military in Cyprus and only a few miles from Turkey itself.
However the EU were determined to get Greece in come what may and have lived to regret it.
Greece no doubt will veto any attempt to get Turkey in so Cameron is wasting his time.
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